I am currently using a set of White's headphones that came with my MXT for both my MXT and my Silver, I am looking to upgrade my headphones and would like some suggestions. I have been looking at the Killer B line and the Rat phones line, but I am open to suggestions. I do not want to break the bank on headphones, but I realize the White's just are not cutting it. Your input is greatly appreciated.
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What are the best headphones for the money?
- Thread starter fllawboy
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Killer B's single volume are a little better than Gray Ghost single volume.
The volume knob in the K B's works better and they are a little lighter and
they sound a little more clear.
Those are two very good headphones.
I paid $76 for the K B's with free shipping.
The G Ghost were $85.
You can pay more for other models in those two brands and get more bells
and whistles, but I'm not sure about quality.
Rats, Sunray and a few others have headphones with leather ear muffs and
higher quality materials. They are probably the best buy for the money.
But K B's a very good also. Won't break the bank. I abused mine, sent
them back with a modest shipping cost, and they were back in my hands,
good as new in six days. They even appologised for me being able to brake
their headphones. I bought the Gray Ghost to use until the K B's came back,
but they both arrived on the same day. Now I have two sets with life time
warranties.
HH,
The volume knob in the K B's works better and they are a little lighter and
they sound a little more clear.
Those are two very good headphones.
I paid $76 for the K B's with free shipping.
The G Ghost were $85.
You can pay more for other models in those two brands and get more bells
and whistles, but I'm not sure about quality.
Rats, Sunray and a few others have headphones with leather ear muffs and
higher quality materials. They are probably the best buy for the money.
But K B's a very good also. Won't break the bank. I abused mine, sent
them back with a modest shipping cost, and they were back in my hands,
good as new in six days. They even appologised for me being able to brake
their headphones. I bought the Gray Ghost to use until the K B's came back,
but they both arrived on the same day. Now I have two sets with life time
warranties.
HH,
I was reading the reviews on the rat phones. I noticed there is an option to put a limiter on them for $3. extra. Several people on there said they did so you don't get that loud sound burst on some targets. Rick the builder said he didn't think they are necessary. Is there anyone here that has tried the limiter?
Any advice is appreciated........thanks
Any advice is appreciated........thanks
Thanks for everyone's input, I am still trying to decide. I was trying to buy the Ratphones today, but found out the manufacturer is not making them anymore, said he is in "redesign" period and was not sure when he was going to come out with a new line. From dealers I spoke with today, it looks like he has been in a redesign period for the past several months, so I am concerned that there will be a long wait for the Ratphones. That being the case, what would be a comparable headphone to the RatPhone Single Volume? Everyone's input is again appreciated.
TonyTX(MXT)
Member
I use Rebel headphones that David Keith made for me several years ago. The are tough and sound good! HH TonyTX
I guess I better take good care of my Ratphones - wonder about repair support 
Then again I'm the kind that normally will go grab another instead of sending in something like that for repair if ever needed.
Also use the SunRay Pro Gold - Killer Bs gets good input from many.
I always use headphones so they are important to me.
Then again I'm the kind that normally will go grab another instead of sending in something like that for repair if ever needed.
Also use the SunRay Pro Gold - Killer Bs gets good input from many.
I always use headphones so they are important to me.
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Anonymous
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A friend went by Radio Shack and got a really comfortable set for 25.00. They are Radio Shack brand. Independent volume controls work great. I was amazed at the comfort of them. I know, I know........some folks may refer to such as "junk", and yes, they are made in China, but if there's a Radio Shack nearby, check them out........I think you will be surprised.
Damn I'm in the same boat as you. I have always used the free pair that came with my machine but I really think I need to upgrade. The thing is so many of these new headphones have so many features I really don't know where to start. Like do I need a phone with 35 notches to control sound. How about cord length, support etc. Most of these quality phones are within $25.00 of each other and once again everyone has there favorite. As for me all I do in coinshoot will I need the same headphone as a relic hunter? Just to many choices.
I have had several sets. I believe any good quality set will work good with tesoros. If I were buying a set, I would try killer bees. Due to the price and features. I have a multi tone detector and troy pros were the only one I found that would give me the sound and volume I wanted on that machine. Headphones are more critical with multi tone detectors because they have to respond over a wide range of frequencies. One thing I would look for is a long enough cord so you can dig without taking of the headphones and dual volume controls. I tried the limiter circuit and I didn't like it, but I'm sure some people with really good hearing do.
I know I will stir up a hornets nest so just remember this is just my opinion on headphones.
Headphones function are more or less the same. The differences are quality of material and the diaphragm that vibrates and produces the sound you hear. If the diaphragm material used is very stiff or limber it will sound different and give that lower base sound of the Grey Ghost or the higher sounds of the Killer Bees. Some of the materials used are cellulose based materials and others are mylar and there is some others. The thickness and type of the material will also determine the base or treble qualities. Ratings on some headphones state a frequency response of 20 to 20,000 HZ and some just don't publish the frequency response (wonder why?) The normal upper hearing range of a young person is up to about 18,000 HZ and for us old folks it can really range down to much lower levels. For me, all I need is a cheap set of headphones with dual volume to compensate for different hearing levels in each ear. There is much more that I could write about here but this is basically my take on the choice of headphones and is certainly not an expert opinion so you guys that are experts please jump into the swamp with me but don't be to mean to this old alligator. The material quality, and the diaphragm material can determine life of the headphones and also the cost. The cheaper headphones ($20.00 to $50.00) work just fine for me and I believe that a lot of the hype you get on headphones are just part of the same hype you get on a lot of the manufacturers of metal detectors. I will stick with my $25.00 phones and use the rest of the money for the high priced models to buy more and more and more metal detectors. New model coming out?? Let me at it. Bubba2
Headphones function are more or less the same. The differences are quality of material and the diaphragm that vibrates and produces the sound you hear. If the diaphragm material used is very stiff or limber it will sound different and give that lower base sound of the Grey Ghost or the higher sounds of the Killer Bees. Some of the materials used are cellulose based materials and others are mylar and there is some others. The thickness and type of the material will also determine the base or treble qualities. Ratings on some headphones state a frequency response of 20 to 20,000 HZ and some just don't publish the frequency response (wonder why?) The normal upper hearing range of a young person is up to about 18,000 HZ and for us old folks it can really range down to much lower levels. For me, all I need is a cheap set of headphones with dual volume to compensate for different hearing levels in each ear. There is much more that I could write about here but this is basically my take on the choice of headphones and is certainly not an expert opinion so you guys that are experts please jump into the swamp with me but don't be to mean to this old alligator. The material quality, and the diaphragm material can determine life of the headphones and also the cost. The cheaper headphones ($20.00 to $50.00) work just fine for me and I believe that a lot of the hype you get on headphones are just part of the same hype you get on a lot of the manufacturers of metal detectors. I will stick with my $25.00 phones and use the rest of the money for the high priced models to buy more and more and more metal detectors. New model coming out?? Let me at it. Bubba2
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[quote bubba2]I know I will stir up a hornets nest so just remember this is just my opinion on headphones.
Headphones function are more or less the same. The differences are quality of material and the diaphragm that vibrates and produces the sound you hear. If the diaphragm material used is very stiff or limber it will sound different and give that lower base sound of the Grey Ghost or the higher sounds of the Killer Bees. Some of the materials used are cellulose based materials and others are mylar and there is some others. The thickness and type of the material will also determine the base or treble qualities. Ratings on some headphones state a frequency response of 20 to 20,000 HZ and some just don't publish the frequency response (wonder why?) The normal upper hearing range of a young person is up to about 18,000 HZ and for us old folks it can really range down to much lower levels. For me, all I need is a cheap set of headphones with dual volume to compensate for different hearing levels in each ear. There is much more that I could write about here but this is basically my take on the choice of headphones and is certainly not an expert opinion so you guys that are experts please jump into the swamp with me but don't be to mean to this old alligator. The material quality, and the diaphragm material can determine life of the headphones and also the cost. The cheaper headphones ($20.00 to $50.00) work just fine for me and I believe that a lot of the hype you get on headphones are just part of the same hype you get on a lot of the manufacturers of metal detectors. I will stick with my $25.00 phones and use the rest of the money for the high priced models to buy more and more and more metal detectors. New model coming out?? Let me at it. Bubba2[/quote] I COULD NOT agree more!! AMEN
Headphones function are more or less the same. The differences are quality of material and the diaphragm that vibrates and produces the sound you hear. If the diaphragm material used is very stiff or limber it will sound different and give that lower base sound of the Grey Ghost or the higher sounds of the Killer Bees. Some of the materials used are cellulose based materials and others are mylar and there is some others. The thickness and type of the material will also determine the base or treble qualities. Ratings on some headphones state a frequency response of 20 to 20,000 HZ and some just don't publish the frequency response (wonder why?) The normal upper hearing range of a young person is up to about 18,000 HZ and for us old folks it can really range down to much lower levels. For me, all I need is a cheap set of headphones with dual volume to compensate for different hearing levels in each ear. There is much more that I could write about here but this is basically my take on the choice of headphones and is certainly not an expert opinion so you guys that are experts please jump into the swamp with me but don't be to mean to this old alligator. The material quality, and the diaphragm material can determine life of the headphones and also the cost. The cheaper headphones ($20.00 to $50.00) work just fine for me and I believe that a lot of the hype you get on headphones are just part of the same hype you get on a lot of the manufacturers of metal detectors. I will stick with my $25.00 phones and use the rest of the money for the high priced models to buy more and more and more metal detectors. New model coming out?? Let me at it. Bubba2[/quote] I COULD NOT agree more!! AMEN
I have to agree with ya Bubba, but just can't 100% - for me anyway.
To me, sound quality has to be there, but a few other things must work for me.
I need comfort to prevent them from becoming annoying.
The cord can't be to long to get tangled or to short to prevent me from standing up when the machine is on the ground.
Material quality and craftsmanship - they should last a reasonable time of outdoor use.
And there are other factors that come into play but I'm cutting this short.
If it didn't matter to me, I would go get me a set for under 5 bucks and that would be that.
On my home stereo, myself and others sure hear a big difference if I jack in my Grado RS-1, or one of my Bose, then really talk about a difference on a 3 or 4 dollar set, even tho they say 20 - 20,000 Hz frequency, I hear and feel a difference as well as others. I know my hearing don't go that low or go that high, but what I do hear is a difference enough that I prefer some over others.
If I run a machine and air test a small target (like a gold picker that's at just detectable range), that just barely change the threshold a tad, I can discern a very small change better with some headsets compared to others.
On a single tone machine, I want the tone language to be conveyed the best I can get to my ears.
Otherwise - I see those $1.99 ear buds - but they are just not for me.
If your happy with what your using, I think that's great, I use what keeps me happy. I'm just the kind that I won't take my sport car and put on 4 for $79 set of tires on. I just wouldn't feel right, sure they both roll down the road, and sure they works for others, but I sure wouldn't feel right for my use.
Not trying to stir the pot here - just my 2 cents HH
To me, sound quality has to be there, but a few other things must work for me.
I need comfort to prevent them from becoming annoying.
The cord can't be to long to get tangled or to short to prevent me from standing up when the machine is on the ground.
Material quality and craftsmanship - they should last a reasonable time of outdoor use.
And there are other factors that come into play but I'm cutting this short.
If it didn't matter to me, I would go get me a set for under 5 bucks and that would be that.
On my home stereo, myself and others sure hear a big difference if I jack in my Grado RS-1, or one of my Bose, then really talk about a difference on a 3 or 4 dollar set, even tho they say 20 - 20,000 Hz frequency, I hear and feel a difference as well as others. I know my hearing don't go that low or go that high, but what I do hear is a difference enough that I prefer some over others.
If I run a machine and air test a small target (like a gold picker that's at just detectable range), that just barely change the threshold a tad, I can discern a very small change better with some headsets compared to others.
On a single tone machine, I want the tone language to be conveyed the best I can get to my ears.
Otherwise - I see those $1.99 ear buds - but they are just not for me.
If your happy with what your using, I think that's great, I use what keeps me happy. I'm just the kind that I won't take my sport car and put on 4 for $79 set of tires on. I just wouldn't feel right, sure they both roll down the road, and sure they works for others, but I sure wouldn't feel right for my use.
Not trying to stir the pot here - just my 2 cents HH