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Went Looking for Old Coins, Found Religion Instead!

William-NM

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Well, I'm a pretty happy camper, I think my ears are finally "becoming one" with the AT Pro, and I've been getting out to some beautiful spots. My last three hunts:

* Sunday: Sports Complex I hadn't hunted - I read that they were putting in artificial turf on the four diamonds and had demolished the concession stand, etc. Only got a couple hours in, checked the scraped off turf that they had piled into 4-5' high berms, found a few coins. Found a few more coins & kids junk ring and gold aluminum junk link in the exposed dirt. I only got to a small fraction of it before the snow (gasp!) ran me off. (I know...). There's definitely more there, gonna try to get back before the new turf goes down.

* Monday: Gomez Peak Picnic area (Gila Nat. Forest). I was DETERMINED to find more old coins around the old tree where I found a 1918 wheatie a few weeks back. Set the contraption up in pro zero with the ground balance backed down around 10 clicks. Didn't find jack around the tree (though I was digging tiny aluminum rivets and such at 8" - 10")
HOWEVER, I did the perimeter around the adjoining volleyball court (did the court last time), and found the nice little Italian Silver St. Benedict pendant and the possibly Gold wedding band (acid tests at 10K, but might get a more expert opinion). Also found the vehicle of my dreams, maybe I won't manage to crack the oil pan on that gnarly machine (I got to pull the pan on the poor old plymouth last week, story below, possibly long and boring...), plus a private jet! Perfect, now I can hop over to the East coast and snarf a few of those half dimes, Indians and Large Cents, then hit Florida & California, vacuuming up all their gold beach goodies and nuggets, then maybe Europe for some early Greek & Roman bling!

* Tuesday: Hit the CCC Picnic Groves (1/4 mi frm the Gomez site yesterday). Was feeling good about the ring and pendant from yesterday, so was VERY pleasantly surprised to pull the 17 gram skull & crossbones out of a small bank along the roadway. It is only stamped "Mexico", has a gold cast to it. Of course, the emblems are Copper. Found a few more coins and it got blizzardish, so will return to continue the areas where I've identified some group CCC photos were taken and some old board and batten cottages used to be. I want to get as much time in out there as I can, as my new friend Sandy, the caretaker, is quitting in March, and I'm not sure what the new person's attitude will be toward MD'ing...

(Photos at bottom - this is the optional 'war story' part, you can wait for the Hollywood version (which will probably involve me having to gnaw my own leg off, heh) if it's too boring)
Last week, I was hunting at another sports complex, and doing well in an outfield, when the team showed up for practice. I got to talking with the coach, who used to be a metal detectorist. He mentioned that there was an old scout camp out past Pinos Altos (Semi-ghost town 6 mi. N. of here). So, the next day, I threw the Tigger and the detector in the car and headed out. It is a few miles up a forest road that starts about 7 miles past Pinos Altos. As we got going up it, it turned to packed snow and ice (it's about 1100' higher than here (we're at 6000'). Well, it went from bad to worse, but there was nowhere to turn around, so on we went. We did pretty well through the first 4 or 5 creek crossings, but had to keep our speed up.. stop and you're dead. We got almost to the camp, but I was so stressed about having to get back out that I just did some quick detecting and headed back out. The gentle slope coming in turned out to be solid glass smooth ice with a quarter inch of powder on it. I got about 1/5 of the way up and lost traction. Bad scene, the ice banked down toward a 200' dropoff. The ground was frozen solid, but I finally located some rock and dirt that I could get a shovel in. I spent several hours filling up my daypack with rock and dirt and spreading a couple of tracks up the 1/4 mile grade. About half way through, I see a puddle of oil under the van. Crap. I cut a liter bottle down and put it under the leak. By the time I was about done, it was dark. I decided that it would be dangerous to attempt at night, so we spent a teeth chattering mostly sleepless night trying not to think about cars rolling down hillsides and bursting into flames. It had been about 50s and sunny in town, so I didn't even have a coat. had a rough rug in the back and used it and the Garrett case to cover up with. Got up with the sun and hauled another couple of hours worth of rock - insurance, as I knew I was dead if I slipped off my tracks. Poured the reclaimed oil back into the Plymouth and said some prayers. It took about a dozen attempts to get a roll going. Once we did, the old Chicago driving skills kicked in, and we hit the gas made it out, didn't stop 'till we got home. I pulled the Pan (not fun, engine mounts in the way, have to jack up engine/trans to get at the last few bolts, sadistic designers), got a line on a local welder who specializes in aluminum. He picked it up and delivered it the next day, charged 25 bucks (I gave Him $40), put that puppy back in and got lucky, didn't get too much engine crud on the gaskets and it hasn't leaked a drop. We slept well that night, and had a hedonistic couple days of movies and general goofing off, comfort food, etc. So, I'm saving that camp for a nice summer day! It's easy to forget how many micro climates we have here, Tigger didn't miss any meals, but his person did (not that that's such a bad thing, and I got a good extended aerobic workout!) . Sure makes you appreciate the comforts of home!! :beers:
 
What a War Story!! I'd be waiting for better weather before trying to navigate that again. And maybe get a jeep or 4 wheeler, and not an old raggeddy Plymouth. Tigger just doesn't need that kinda stress!!
 
Thanks, Guys!
BCD - I was thinking maybe I could get a good deal on a used tank since the military is downsizing. I asked Santa for a Hummer, guess I wasn't quite good enough last year for that . : ( Tigger had plenty to eat and his thick winter coat on and enjoyed exploring the area, he was his usual laid back self. His person, on the other hand, was a basket case, heh. Seriously, I am thinking of trading for something more rugged, but the van is great around town and on the road, gets 25mpg...don't really want two vehicles, what's a detectorist to do?
 
Gila Natioal Forest? did you get permission to dig?
 
Woodchuck: Yep, I called the rangers HQ twice to make sure. Plus, I made friends with the caretaker at the picnic area. She's saving up for an AT Pro. I let her follow me around and try mine out. She got really stoked when I showed her the heavy gold biker ring and the wedding band. The forest manager said no problem, lots of people detecting out there, keep any gold, etc., but archaelogical items are off limits, report them with gps coords if possible. :clapping:
 
That's why I hate to hunt alone, situations like what you got yourself into. Afterward all you can do is shake your head and whisper to yourself about what an idiot you are! I went deer khunting and climbed up into a small tree about 20' off the ground and spent mosst of the day there. It began a light drizzling rain and as I had been up that tree a thousand times I never thought much of it. About dark, I started to climb down and to my surprise, I found out why they call that particular type of tee a "slippery elm". It was as slick as snot and it was all I could do jkust to keep from slipping off my precarious perch and falling some 20' onto some sharp rocks! I finallhy edged down about ten feet and slipped , catching one foot in the crotch of a limb. So, there I was hanging upside down being held by one ankle and foot about 10' above the rocks! My rifle was still slung over my back and shoulder by its strap and my day pack was hanging off my other shoulder adding weight to my body mass. I fouind I could swing up enough to reaqch the limb hkolding my foot, but couldn't hold onto it because it was so wet and slippery. What to do? I hung there about 20 minutes , blood rushing to my feeble brain and not getting any good ideas. A couple of guys hunting across from me had left when the rain started, so I was all alone and it was nearly dark and getting cold. I could just imagine the headlines....," Stupid hunter found hanging in tree...."! . Well, I finally unsnapped the strap to the rifle and back pack and let them drop. I had on a heavy water proof coat so I was able to slip it off and wrap it around my head and neck and hold it with both arms. Then I whispered a prayer and kicked my foot out and fell about 10' onto the rocks landing on my back, head and shoulders. I hit with quite a jar and it knocked the breath out of me and I was seeing stars from landing on my wrapped up head and neck. So after I caught my breath and decided I wasn't dead, I gathered my stuff and limped the half mile back to my truck. That little experience broke this old dog from sucking eggs or so they say. Now I rarely go alone or stay in plain site of a road or highway. Onus
 
Well it appears that you didn't ask the question to them with enough key buzz-words. And it appears that simply found someone who just didn't care, and wasn't going to go deep enough into their books to end up saying "no" to you. Because there are ranger-types who will find something to morph to your question, and just as easily tell you "no", for federal sites. But in those cases, it's probably more a function of "no one cared ... TILL you asked, eh?" :rolleyes:

For example: the "archaeological items" they told you are "off-limits", can be interpretted to be coins as little as 50 yrs. old. But then again ........ your math never was too good anyhow, eh?
 
Onus: Great story! Yep, I kept saying to myself: If I get out of this alive, I'll never do anything this stupid again... (at least until next time)
re: seeing stars - I slipped a couple times on that glassy slope and went down hard, one time I was seeing literally stars and thinking "So this is where they got the idea of the stars swirling around your head in the cartoons", heh.

Tom in CA: I hear 'ya. I try to follow the code of ethics and put the hobby in a good light - always talk to people and wave at the cops. I'm in a smaller town, so they get to know you (hopefully, in a good way). I make a point of picking up trash - I brought two bags of trash home from the old train station area where I found the Barber Quarter & Buffalo on Saturday, don't know if they really notice, but feels like a fair exchange to me. You're right, though, I'm kinda dumb at math sometimes?!?!?!?!?
 
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