..............after recently posting " to Target ID or Not to Target ID". ( see below). I go out with my son's Cibola and find not one....but two Men's 14K gold wedding bands!! They were on opposite ends of a soccer field...... and they both read...exactly dead center in the pulltab range on my Cortes meter,after I tested them on the Cortes......... when I returned home. To be very honest if I was hunting with the Cortes I would not have dug them. I wrestled with this info and even though it makes me look foolish.........I owe it to my friends on this forum to speak the truth, and let you know how as soon as you think you have it figured out.........................you don't!!!!
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Well I have to eat crow............................
- Thread starter Ivan
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Gunnar of bradford MN
New member
thats it if you want gold you must dig pull tabs I .D machines cant tell the diff only on coins fr the most part thats why i was going to get a vaqaro i find im digging anything that gives a + 12 and up on my m-6 so it seems to me discimination is a good feature which the vaquero has thats the main goody you need but i can tell when i have iron whith my M-6 and decide not to dig it
dirt doctor
Well-known member
as soon as you think you have it figured out.........................you don't!!!![/quote]
The Cortes is a great machine especially if your strictly a coinshooter . I had one for several years and all I did was look at the I.D. when trying to find rings .
I never did figure it out .
I went back and read all the data on my finds . Most of my finds especially rings were found on non-metered Tesoros .
I sold my Cortes because I was too weak to stop using the TID as long as it was there and I could never master the notch like I did on my old Golden Sabre 2 .
So I am now swinging a Bandido 2 Umax and a Tejon .
Some guys like to compare what the TID says to what they think it says , and that's cool .
I'm finding I am having a better time without the TID and once again getting pleasantly surprised .
It all boils down to what machine has the features you get more comfortable with or sometimes just how good that machine feels to swing .
Congrats on your 2 gold rings Ivan and on your honest post .
H H ,
DD
The Cortes is a great machine especially if your strictly a coinshooter . I had one for several years and all I did was look at the I.D. when trying to find rings .
I never did figure it out .
I went back and read all the data on my finds . Most of my finds especially rings were found on non-metered Tesoros .
I sold my Cortes because I was too weak to stop using the TID as long as it was there and I could never master the notch like I did on my old Golden Sabre 2 .
So I am now swinging a Bandido 2 Umax and a Tejon .
Some guys like to compare what the TID says to what they think it says , and that's cool .
I'm finding I am having a better time without the TID and once again getting pleasantly surprised .
It all boils down to what machine has the features you get more comfortable with or sometimes just how good that machine feels to swing .
Congrats on your 2 gold rings Ivan and on your honest post .
H H ,
DD
Even though many gold rings read as pop tops, there is a trick that might help you snag some of them. Pop tops and pull tabs tend to read erratic on the Cortes with each subsequent pass. The numbers will jump around and the bar graph indicators too. With a ring in that exact range, the ID numbers may jump, but only 1 or 2 points at best and the bar graph will be very stable no mater how you sweep the target. Rings will give a much more "stable" meter indication than rings will. So vary your stance when you get a "pop top" signal, sweep and watch those indicators as you sweep the target. If they remain steady, you better dig it. Now it may be the "ring" off a pop top, they will fool the machine, but most of them will show a slightly erratic behavior.
need to remind myself how my Cortes meter displays them. I bury one about 3" and watch the meter. The number always bounces about 15 points and the bars move somewhat with each sweep. Why?? Some posters here say gold rings will display a real tight number group. Not my detector. I have dug a few gold rings with this detector, but I didn't really study the meter (I always glance at it for a clue and for depth) because I thought the target would be a pull tab. Do gold rings that are freshly buried give a different response?
Same is true with coins. I am no scientist but after a target (coin or ring) has been burried for a while, there is a relationship that develops. Call it halo or what ever. Fresh targets, like airtesting, dont react the same as target that has been burried for a while. I am sure the ground matrix probably has something to do with it as well. Bury one of your rings in your yard and try it down the road. Not sure how long it takes to develop a halo but you could keep testing and I am sure you will eventually see the results I talked about. It may take months, but it will happen.
What was the depth and orientation of each target you buried?[quote tabdog]This won't be very scientific but here are my results.
On 8-29-07 I buried three gold rings I borrowed form a family member. One was a medium size man's 10k gold ring. One was a medium size woman's 14k ring with missing diamonds. One was a medium to small woman's 14k gold ring.
I haven't checked them with a MD from around 9-05-07 until now.
Freshly buried the man's ring gave a good signal on my Cibola but a little scratchy. The medium woman's ring was barley readable but steady. Like a small charm or something. The smaller woman's ring hit harder than the medium ring for some reason.
With my BH Quick Draw II, Using a 4" coil, the man's ring showed iron to nickel on the TID. The woman's rings were not detectable.
I just got through checking them today. I could not even find the targets good enough with the QD II to no which was which. Had to mark them with the Cibola so I could check them with the QD II. The grass has grown and my markers are not visable now.
The man's ring gives a good clear signal like a nickel on my Cibola, not scratchy. The medium woman's ring is noticeably easier to read. The smaller woman' ring wields a cleaner signal than before.
With my BH Quick Draw II the man's ring shows pull tab on the TID. Can not read the medium woman's ring. The smaller woman's ring now shows iron on the TID.
Oh, I almost forgot. The ground is now more moist than it was when the targets were freshly buried. This probably affects the results also. It may be next summer before I can have a more accurate conclusion.
Hope this is informative.[/quote]
On 8-29-07 I buried three gold rings I borrowed form a family member. One was a medium size man's 10k gold ring. One was a medium size woman's 14k ring with missing diamonds. One was a medium to small woman's 14k gold ring.
I haven't checked them with a MD from around 9-05-07 until now.
Freshly buried the man's ring gave a good signal on my Cibola but a little scratchy. The medium woman's ring was barley readable but steady. Like a small charm or something. The smaller woman's ring hit harder than the medium ring for some reason.
With my BH Quick Draw II, Using a 4" coil, the man's ring showed iron to nickel on the TID. The woman's rings were not detectable.
I just got through checking them today. I could not even find the targets good enough with the QD II to no which was which. Had to mark them with the Cibola so I could check them with the QD II. The grass has grown and my markers are not visable now.
The man's ring gives a good clear signal like a nickel on my Cibola, not scratchy. The medium woman's ring is noticeably easier to read. The smaller woman' ring wields a cleaner signal than before.
With my BH Quick Draw II the man's ring shows pull tab on the TID. Can not read the medium woman's ring. The smaller woman's ring now shows iron on the TID.
Oh, I almost forgot. The ground is now more moist than it was when the targets were freshly buried. This probably affects the results also. It may be next summer before I can have a more accurate conclusion.
Hope this is informative.[/quote]
Yeah, that's how I hide coins in the yard for my son to practice on. Push the knife in at an angle, push up on the knife handle to open up a tunnel, drop the blade back a little and then put the coin on the blade and slide it in and then push down the sod. Alot easier than digging a hole.