Weekend MX Sport water hunt

[Old California]

Haven't posted in a while, but this weekend detected two fresh water areas near my home.

Sealed the stock headset connector to the pigtail making the headset waterproof up to the volume control near the headset, worked great no issues with leakage.

Both fresh water areas have mineralization, using Prospecting mode VCO on position, SAT at 4, Sensitivity 7 with stock 10" coil the MX Sport operated great. Very impressed, some areas the unit was completely submerged and what's really impressive stability was smooth.

Prospecting mode is the mode I've always believed to be best suited for fresh water hunting, give it a try with those having an MX Sport I feel you'll agree.

Did find a small 14k 1.1 gram kids ring from the first fresh water hole, the second patch of water gave up no gold but with temperatures above triple digit the cool water sure was a pleasure to detect in.

Normally, For land use Relic mode but I'm starting to see Prospecting as my main mode for both land and water. So glad to have made the MX Sport purshase, the unit has so much to offer especially for it's low price.

Thanks for looking,
Paul

 

[Des D]

Nice place
Nice finds
Nice junk
Well done on the 'clean up'
Good to hear you submerged it and it AOK

 

[El]

and stay cool Paul.

 

[amberjack]

looks like a good spot to hang out on a stinker and some gold good day out !

AJ

 

[Old California]

Thanks AJ,

Yes, We saw a trout jump out of the water about 100 yards from shore. Well my friend did I heard the splash and seen the waves after the splash.

Dug a lot of sinkers yesterday, the area is a good place to fish.

Thanks again,
Paul

 

[Old California]

Thanks El,

It's that season again for fresh water, just in time the MX Sport will be my main VLF for fresh water.

Thanks El
Paul

 

[Old California]

Thanks Des,

That was one of my concerns with the MX Sport, not knowing how it would handle wet black sand and if waterproof.

This weekend was not very productive, but it sure answered several concerns. The MX Sport was operating fantastic, now I can honestly say it's my main fresh water VLF.

Thanks again,
Paul

 

[Rick N. MI]

Nice hunt. I was in the water today too with the SurfMaster II vlf and found a tungsten ring.

I was hoping to take the the mxs 6x10 coil in the water but I hear it floats to much. I know I could weight it down.

Paul, how was the 10" coil in the water for floating. I was surprise the Surfmaster II coil floated. The gold earring you found. Does the 10" coil hit on it too? The mxs is very sensitive to small jewelry.

My mxsport will be here thru.

Rick

 

[Old California]

Hello Rick,

Auctally, The 10" coil is perfect for water. Does not float, and good coverage yet not too big.

Very sensitive to small jewerly, use Prospecting mode for water hunting it's the best mode for these conditions. Same with AT Gold, Prospecting mode is best for water conditions.

The small piece of gold the MX Sport recovered was a tiny kids 14k ring, but last month the MX Sport did detect an earring stud my friends AT Pro couldn't detect. Had it been the AT Gold it would have hit the earring with prospecting mode.

Between the MX Sport and AT Gold, hands down I perfer the MSP.

Looking forward to your future MX Sport adventures, thanks for the encouragmect!

Paul

 

[finnfoto]

Awesome Paul. so how do you like the Sport? Would you compare the unit performance wise to the bh300? in freshwater?




Ray

 

[Old California]

Thanks Ray,

Indeed, I really like the MX Sport for both fresh water and relic hunting.

Gosh.... It's been too many years since using the BeachHunter, can't remember how the BeachHunter performed can't even remember the type of features it had?

I prefer to use Prospecting mode, both water and open farm areas. Areas with thick iron, use relic mode but switch to prospecting mode when out in the outer open areas.

Recently, Made a few neat finds. I'll post them and one particular find has me baffled, no idea what it is but it's a neat find. I'm thinking maybe a pocket sundial contraption? Has the head of a Roman type figure on the lid, was gold plated. Missing the center portion, neat find.

So far, my MX Sport shows no signs of cracks. It's waterproof been under water several times for long periods, it's deeper than an mxt. I know mxt users don't want to believe this, in my ground that's what I'm experiencing.

Thanks Ray, hope we can get out in the future.

Paul

 

[SeabeeRon]

Thanks for the update Paul!

 

[sweeper60]

Thanks Ray,

Indeed, I really like the MX Sport for both fresh water and relic hunting.


So far, my MX Sport shows no signs of cracks. It's waterproof been under water several times for long periods, it's deeper than an mxt. I know mxt users don't want to believe this, in my ground that's what I'm experiencing.

Paul

Having run both machines side by side I found the mxs not as deep, Having use the MXT in the Relic mode mostly When comparing it to the mxs The MXT was better in the prospecting mode, another thing with the mxs is the pin point only tests to 12 inches where the PP mode on the MXT is about 65% Deeper until the detector no longer sees the target,

It is not a good machine which is why white sent a memo to all their dealers listing it out of stock until the faults are corrected along with a new mechanical fault has been a major sours of trouble also there has been reports of the Pods getting flooded, So it might be wise to keep that pare of your detector dry until more is known about this issue,

If the mxs was any good whites would not of cancelled all sales of the mxs as per the Memo that they sent to Dealers stating the fact, Whites would not have done that if it was a good working machine.

 

[Old California]

Hello Ron,

Always a pleasure seeing you on the forums, And good to see you participating when you can.

I don't get out that often, recent family emergency keeps me close to home. But I do manage to get out when I can, nearby sites or local rivers close to home.

Thanks Ron, you take care my friend.
Paul

 

[Old California]

Yes that's a fact sweeper60, the MX Sport has its issues.

In fact, has more issues than there are fingers connected to the plam of your hand.

What separates my reasoning for enjoying the MX Sport from your disappointment, My post refers to my ground while you state the MXT is better than the MX Sport without giving an explaination your reasoning is for your soil.

In my ground, the MXT lacks depth. That's were the MX Sport excels the MXT, I should know having owned probably 4 to 5 different types of MXT.

And why should I not use my MX Sport in the water, it's under warranty. If it leaks, so be it Whites will cover the issue. I'm not going to baby the detector, it's designed for both water and land. That's why I purchased the MXS, especially due to prospecting mode that's the better mode for fresh water black sand.

Yes, Indeed the MXT is a fine detector. One of my favorite detectors, but it does not do well underwater.

You have your reasoning for liking the MXT, that's great but for my area and my type of hunting hands down the MXS has the edge.

All the best,
Paul

 

[sweeper60]

Yes that's a fact sweeper60, the MX Sport has its issues.

In fact, has more issues than there are fingers connected to the plam of your hand.

What separates my reasoning for enjoying the MX Sport from your disappointment, My post refers to my ground while you state the MXT is better than the MX Sport without giving an explaination your reasoning is for your soil.

In my ground, the MXT lacks depth. That's were the MX Sport excels the MXT, I should know having owned probably 4 to 5 different types of MXT.

And why should I not use my MX Sport in the water, it's under warranty. If it leaks, so be it Whites will cover the issue. I'm not going to baby the detector, it's designed for both water and land. That's why I purchased the MXS, especially due to prospecting mode that's the better mode for fresh water black sand.

Yes, Indeed the MXT is a fine detector. One of my favorite detectors, but it does not do well underwater.

You have your reasoning for liking the MXT, that's great but for my area and my type of hunting hands down the MXS has the edge.

All the best,
Paul

Paul, The one I had drove me nuts but that was not the machines fault and when they fix it I will get another one, just because I like the clear screen and I like that coil too, I don't understand why you say it handles the ground better because the used the MXT's ground balance system and I have used them in places from the UK to the Red Dirt of the Australian Bush, So of the soils will max out the GB of any machine even a PI, If it has the MXTs ground balance system it can' handle the ground any better, because in whites own words they clearly state that the mxs has the MXT's ground tracking system, I think the reason you are seeing a difference is because the mxs suits your method/style of hunting, which I have seen happen many times, Having ran both machines in heavy clay and black dirt and sandy soils the mxs showed me nothing to confirm that it is any deeper,

When whites did that video comparing the 3 machines, Everyone quoted that the mxs is deeper, well the video did NOT show the facts and the MXT will in fact see coin a Quarter further than they said by quite a few inches and the fact is they stated that the MXT could not see the coin if it was within 6 inches of the nail, and the fact is It can and the signal that is heard was not from the nail, All these claims about this machine are based on the hype fabricated in that video, and I have a video to prove otherwise, The laws of Physics dictate how deep a detector can go not detector companies, Based on your machine seeing a coin at 12 inches, To gain 1 inch of depth the power out put in the machine it would have to have the power increased by 5.333 times and the Battery/power consumption would be 170.66 times greater, which means the battery life would be in the region of 10 minutes 54 seconds based on a person getting 30 hours out of the standard power supply, The silly part about it is some of out older machines were deeper than anything the major companies put out now so although we have the bells and whistles we have lost Power/Depth, So nothing is as it should be or as we think it should be, It is just the way it is,

With the mxs when it is running the way it was meant to be there is only one concern and that is because it is noes heavy it will not be able to run bigger coils everything else is fine except where the headphone socket is located, As for the coil weight issue I think if a person gets a counter weight made up that slots in to hole under the arm cup the it will fix the balance when using bigger coils, But as I said when they fix it properly I would be happy to hand over the cash and be glad I did, I just want the smoke and mirrors to stop,

Take care..

 

[Old California]

Sweeper60,

Thank you for sharing your experiences with the MX Sport, and I never did care for the video Whites made with the recovery due to not explaining in detail settings used with the detectors.

Part of the advantages with my MXS are due to the recovery speed, and not quite sure what else Whites did but it's helping the MX Sport handle my mineralized soil.

And it's not only deeper than an MXT, it's deeper than my Deus, Minelab Explorer SE and several other top end with the exception of the Blisstool v6 when detecting in my mineralized soil.

However, out in normal ground in park terrian conditions all are about equal with the exception with the v6 that particular detector is deeper.

Even with all the MX Sport's faults, I'm very impressed with it's performance. Plus, It's waterproof. I've been needing a good waterproof VLF, aside from the AT Gold these are the only waterproof VLF I will own because one needs prospecting mode to detect fresh water black sand.

Somehow my MX Sport escaped the screen cracking issue, it's be underwater many times for long periods with no problems. It's under warranty, if it leaks or the screen shows signs of failure I'll send it in.

There are some MX Sport users auctally having great success with their detectors, making honest finds with what they truly believe to be an exceptional detector for certain conditions. Why can't we the few, share our experiences without being reminded of the disaster the unit has endured.

We get that, we know it has issues. Most of us don't even use pinpoint mode with any of our detectors, nor do we need modulation for our type if hunting. With all its issues, bugs and all the MX Sport is one of my favorite detectors especially for certain conditions.

Take care,
Paul

 

[sweeper60]

Sweeper60,

Thank you for sharing your experiences with the MX Sport, and I never did care for the video Whites made with the recovery due to not explaining in detail settings used with the detectors.

Part of the advantages with my MXS are due to the recovery speed, and not quite sure what else Whites did but it's helping the MX Sport handle my mineralized soil.

And it's not only deeper than an MXT, it's deeper than my Deus, Minelab Explorer SE and several other top end with the exception of the Blisstool v6 when detecting in my mineralized soil.

However, out in normal ground in park terrian conditions all are about equal with the exception with the v6 that particular detector is deeper.

Even with all the MX Sport's faults, I'm very impressed with it's performance. Plus, It's waterproof. I've been needing a good waterproof VLF, aside from the AT Gold these are the only waterproof VLF I will own because one needs prospecting mode to detect fresh water black sand.

Somehow my MX Sport escaped the screen cracking issue, it's be underwater many times for long periods with no problems. It's under warranty, if it leaks or the screen shows signs of failure I'll send it in.

There are some MX Sport users auctally having great success with their detectors, making honest finds with what they truly believe to be an exceptional detector for certain conditions. Why can't we the few, share our experiences without being reminded of the disaster the unit has endured.

We get that, we know it has issues. Most of us don't even use pinpoint mode with any of our detectors, nor do we need modulation for our type if hunting. With all its issues, bugs and all the MX Sport is one of my favorite detectors especially for certain conditions.

Take care,
Paul

Paul, One thing to remember is once the machine is right the work/improvements won't stop there because with the TDIs and the MXTs, I asked whites if they had up graded them and they said NO but what they did say was " There are always on going refinements going on" so don't think for a second that these machines will be built and that's it, Because although they don't change the software version they tweak just little things as time goes on, I first noticed it about 8 months ago because what I was seeing was not normal, So I called them and then after a few emails I was then told about the on going thing happening,

At the moment I have one Whites machine that thinks it is a GMT, I have not had the heart to tell it that it is NOT, Because while it is working good I don't want to upset It, But I also Own a GMT as well, I don't think it is that Whites are Tweaking their coils because a lot my coils are of all different ages so it can't be them that is causing this to happen, Although I wish it was that simple, Having spent over 5000 hours using and testing them I have had to invest in a third set of scales in the past year to measure these changes and it has caused many late nights since,,

But don't think for a second that your machine is running hot now because Whites will not leave it alone even when it's fixed and it will only get better and better, and it will drive you nuts at times, So good times ahead,

Take Care,

 

[Old California]

Thanks John for the update, I agree and not only Whites but other detector companies will make changes along the way.

Thanks again,
Paul