Finished detecting at local beech on Lake Superior and a warden drove up and asked what I found and then asked me if I had a permit to detect on state land (water)! I said no I was not aware that one was needed, I asked Where do they issue them? the warden said he didn't know but was sure I needed one he asked me to stop by the WI DNR office and they would figure it out !!! WHAT THE HECK !!!!! If anyone can shed some light on the permit issue I would sure appreciate it. Any way here's a couple finds, can anyone tell me what the reward ring is from? seems pretty old, Thanks !!
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Warden asked if I had permit !!!
- Thread starter McDyver
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Joel-Winnipeg
New member
Nice items you've found in that outing.
OldBeechnut
Well-known member
Does not look good for the hunters up your way, your best bet is ...
http://learningstore.uwex.edu/assets/pdfs/g3622.pdf
http://www.findmall.com/read.php?18,915276
http://dnr.wi.gov/files/PDF/forms/9400/9400-239.pdf
Here in Maryland...The one thing we have going for us are the Riparian Water Rights, we cannot detect in State Parks, but we can come in by water, to the High Tide Line, (OHWM) ordinary high water mark. This is If we come in by water only to that area...You may want check and see if your in the same boat, they do have to tell you the truth, I've had a few encounters with the DNR and all have been 100 percent on, that I can be there, in the water, if I don't step on there land, and if I come in by water. Having over 60+old, private, abandoned, points of interest "Beachs" here in the Bay.....That's why I'm shopping now....I don't want the hassle of asking, or walking a mile in the water to get to these places.
Good Luck, and Very nice Treasure...joe
http://learningstore.uwex.edu/assets/pdfs/g3622.pdf
http://www.findmall.com/read.php?18,915276
http://dnr.wi.gov/files/PDF/forms/9400/9400-239.pdf
Here in Maryland...The one thing we have going for us are the Riparian Water Rights, we cannot detect in State Parks, but we can come in by water, to the High Tide Line, (OHWM) ordinary high water mark. This is If we come in by water only to that area...You may want check and see if your in the same boat, they do have to tell you the truth, I've had a few encounters with the DNR and all have been 100 percent on, that I can be there, in the water, if I don't step on there land, and if I come in by water. Having over 60+old, private, abandoned, points of interest "Beachs" here in the Bay.....That's why I'm shopping now....I don't want the hassle of asking, or walking a mile in the water to get to these places.
Good Luck, and Very nice Treasure...joe
dirtdigger08
New member
Hey Old Beach Nut
You may want to read a little more into what is law. I have been hunting the waters of this area of the Chesapeake Bay from Annapolis to anywhere you can go by boat..What you don't know I was arrested 10 -12 years ago hunting in front of the Londontown Public House, I was holding my ground about coming by boat but that doesn't matter. It cost me a few thousand dollars to defend myself in court for the LAW which is under a housing bill states " You cannot dig anything under the waters that the State of Maryland own or controls which is over 100 years old" if you do it belongs to the state and you are required to turn it in. I made the news , Chanel 13 and a couple more carried the article. The worst part of the problem I work in Annapolis for a large company and was responsible for a 20 million budget, and the States Attorney was on TV and equated me to a thief that would steal from MT. Vernon whatever I could get. Then I had my chance on TV to speak against his thought of me. To tell you the truth I had the state tied up because of their law for once you find a spot that has over 100 year old stuff coming up, that spot is off limits till the historical sou city clears it to be use again...So know and living on the water here in Annapolis, every oyster and clam rig on the bay digs and they recover lots of historical items, so in reality that in dusty could have been shut down. Also the law as the judge said at the time " Judge Raisin" the law is not written very well biggest problem { The law states " You can not dig anything over a 100 years old, but you don't know that till you dig up the article, so you have to break the law to know you broke the law" when I give metal detecting talks and seminars I always bring this up.
This is just the opening of the can of worms in this area of water hunting and I've been hunting the water since 1978, there's more to this but I don't have the time to write it all. If anyone is interested in knowing more just drop me an email and I'll give you my phone # to talk and enlighten you. Oh yes I'm still out there in the water but I keep my fingers crossed that I'm not in the wrong spot. That will be discussed if you call me.....
You may want to read a little more into what is law. I have been hunting the waters of this area of the Chesapeake Bay from Annapolis to anywhere you can go by boat..What you don't know I was arrested 10 -12 years ago hunting in front of the Londontown Public House, I was holding my ground about coming by boat but that doesn't matter. It cost me a few thousand dollars to defend myself in court for the LAW which is under a housing bill states " You cannot dig anything under the waters that the State of Maryland own or controls which is over 100 years old" if you do it belongs to the state and you are required to turn it in. I made the news , Chanel 13 and a couple more carried the article. The worst part of the problem I work in Annapolis for a large company and was responsible for a 20 million budget, and the States Attorney was on TV and equated me to a thief that would steal from MT. Vernon whatever I could get. Then I had my chance on TV to speak against his thought of me. To tell you the truth I had the state tied up because of their law for once you find a spot that has over 100 year old stuff coming up, that spot is off limits till the historical sou city clears it to be use again...So know and living on the water here in Annapolis, every oyster and clam rig on the bay digs and they recover lots of historical items, so in reality that in dusty could have been shut down. Also the law as the judge said at the time " Judge Raisin" the law is not written very well biggest problem { The law states " You can not dig anything over a 100 years old, but you don't know that till you dig up the article, so you have to break the law to know you broke the law" when I give metal detecting talks and seminars I always bring this up.
This is just the opening of the can of worms in this area of water hunting and I've been hunting the water since 1978, there's more to this but I don't have the time to write it all. If anyone is interested in knowing more just drop me an email and I'll give you my phone # to talk and enlighten you. Oh yes I'm still out there in the water but I keep my fingers crossed that I'm not in the wrong spot. That will be discussed if you call me.....
OldBeechnut
Well-known member
Wow, Bad ordel..........Guess I've been out too little in the bay........Or just Lucky........
We will have to hookup. I do plan on getting out several times a week in the Bay,during the winter months and living at the ocean during the summer come 2013...Thanks DD80...PM me so we can talk... joe
We will have to hookup. I do plan on getting out several times a week in the Bay,during the winter months and living at the ocean during the summer come 2013...Thanks DD80...PM me so we can talk... joe
In the '80s Connecticut detecting groups asked the states attorney general for clarification of the new law that stated anything over a certain age was state property and the finder would turn it in or be violating the law.
.Merc dimes and old Coke bottles would have been illegal to keep under he "Letter of The Law""!!
The AG reassured us that as long as hobbyists weren't digging on historical sites they were free to pursue their hobby (local statutes not withstanding).
Sometime you have to ask the right question of the right person!
GL&HH Friends,
CJ
.Merc dimes and old Coke bottles would have been illegal to keep under he "Letter of The Law""!!
The AG reassured us that as long as hobbyists weren't digging on historical sites they were free to pursue their hobby (local statutes not withstanding).
Sometime you have to ask the right question of the right person!
GL&HH Friends,
CJ
OldBeechnut
Well-known member
I've made some calls, seems I have a connection....
deepseeker442
New member
good hunt . :usaflag 