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Waders, Wetsuit or Drysuit? :jump:

Pepper54

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My husband and I are getting serious about river/lake/ocean metal detecting, (mostly river and lake.) I need recommendations on what to look for, and what to avoid. Are waders, wetsuits or drysuits better?

I am leaning toward chest high waders, as it looks to me like getting into and out of wetsuits/drysuits can be a hassle. (but maybe not? I have to admit I have never tried one on.)

What are your opinions and experiences?

Where are the best places to get them? Any brand names you would recommend over others?

Thanks!

Pepper54 :detecting:
 
[size=large]I would be very careful about using chest waders. Here is Florida, we "fish the flats" (walking and fishing in shallow water) Seems like ever few years years, someone drowns after their chest waders fill up with water. They either step into a hole or are in a little deeper water than they realize and get swamped by a rogue wave. The waders fill up and with the suction created by the water, it is almost impossible to get out of them before drowning. I use shorts and flats boots myself. When the water gets colder. I'll use a wetsuit. GL & HH, Larry[/size]
 
I agree 100% with Larry, wadders are not the solution, stay well clear of them. Wetsuits come in a range of thickness and styles, check out any good diving store and they will be more than helpful, also get wetsuit books as mention by Larry as they afford you feet a degree of protection and if in cold water keep you warm.

Mike:ausflag:
 
I hunt some pretty cold water in Pennsylvania and wear a shorty wetsuit. It works well.
 
Me and Lucky Luke are using both wadders or wet suits. We rarely use the wet suits thaugh because they are sutch a hassle to put on and if you hunt a whole day with them... you get tired mutch faster. We mostly use wet suits when we know we'll have to hit the deeper areas.
Our wadders are neoprene wadders so we can hunt in icy cold water, even in winter. The neoprene wadders are a little thighter than the rubber ones around the chest, so water wont rush is as badly. To prevent accidental flooding, we have a diver beld around the waist to hold our finding poutch. In case i would accidentally step in deep water, the belt will limit the amout of water penetrating.
I never had a full flooding... but it did happen that i felt i went a little too deep... but the amout of water that got in was very limited and by no way was it a treath.
If we had used regular rubber wadders ? hummm maybe that would have been dangerous. I did used them at first but a that time, i was using duck tape around the chest for security.
When we hunt icy cold water (sometimes we break the ice to get in), we are thinking about a dry suit... but they are rather costly... one day maybe !
 
If you are in a cold climate..........and a distance from home..........where are you going to put that wet suit on without freezing your butt off? Or drive back home with it on.........pretty uncomfortable. Dry suits are costly so I would suggest the waders but I do not like them either for fear of falling or slipping in the water with them on. If you have a Cabela's near you, go try the stuff on and then make your decission.
 
I've used wetsuits for a while, not in water detecting but for snorkeling. I'm just getting into water detecting and don't plan to change much as far as that goes. I've also used waders for hunting, and while they do have some drawbacks such as the swamping mentioned in other posts, in my opinion they have their place. Dry suits are the upper end of protection from cold and abrasions, and they're certainly the most expensive.

Neoprene waders are easier to use than a neoprene suit, faster to get into and out of, can be more affordable, and you can get different weights of neoprene with differing amounts of insulation depending on your needs. Yes, several people are drowned by them each year but thousands of people aren't. Personally I wouldn't go deeper than my upper thighs in waders, especially if I wasn't familiar with the bottom countours. Waders are somewhat easier to use than wetsuits, and at the end of the day you simply take them off and you're dry underneath. With wetsuits, not so much. Plan for either having a place to put real clothes back on for the drive home, let the suit dry, or have a good non-slip seat cover in your car.

Wetsuits also come in different weights, you'll usually find them described as 3/2mm or 5/3mm, meaning that the neoprene is thicker in the chest and thigh areas for warmth and thinner in areas like the elbows and knees for flexibility. Wetsuits are more time-consuming to put on, however wearing a lycra "thinsuit" as your first layer helps a lot in putting it on and taking it off while also adding a slight bit of insulation. You can find the thinsuits for $20-40 and prices for wetsuits can run anywhere from $80-200 or more.

You''ll get used to a wetsuit a lot faster than you think. They don't have the clunky boots built into the feet like most waders have (although you can get "stockingfoot" waders), but get the booties when you get your suit for some measure of protection for your feet and gloves for your hands. And you have plenty of options for insulation and abrasion protection. For instance in the spring you can wear a thinner wetsuit, when it gets hot in the summer you can switch to a shorty wetsuit or a thinsuit, and mix and match as fall starts to approach. A good wetsuit isn't much more expensive than premium waders, and with a wetsuit on you're ready to go after the deeper areas you shouldn't even consider when wearing waders. You can swim in a wetsuit unlike in waders, you can work the beach in a wetsuit if you want, and there's just not the bulk of waders.

Most people are VERY self-conscious about wearing a wetsuit, and a thinsuit is nothing more than a full-coverage Speedo. I can't say much without sounding offensive, but once you see some of the other people that dare to don a wetsuit you'll get over how you look. I have yet to see a woman in a wetsuit that didn't look good anyway. I wouldn't worry as much about brand names as I would the quality of the suit. It's like most other things in that you get what you pay for, the lower-priced suits have cheaper thread, looser stitching patterns and more questionable fit tolerances than a higher-priced suit of the same dimensions. Check out Neosport, Billabong, Rip Curl or Hyperflex.

I guess I could have shortened this up by simply saying "get a wetsuit", but since I'm not paying by the word I wanted to state my case. Other opinions may vary. Good luck with your decision and happy hunting!

Steve
 
Here is my 2 cents worth, I wear waders here in Fl. during the winter. I have chest high waders with built in elastic around the chest. I try to stay around waist deep, but at times I have had water to go over the chest opening. With the pressure from the water pushing the waders to your body all I have had to deal with was a small amount of water seeping in.(my waders are very thin and cling to your body in the water).
I am sure if you were to get in over your chest for a short period of time you would have a problem. I own a shorty wet suit, it looks cooler walking on the beach, and it is cooler in the water. I have the dive Booties to protect and keep my feet warm. Changing at the beach sometimes is a problem.
We have very low tides in winter so you can get out to where most people go during the summer without getting to deep. Now take into consideration that we deal with water temps of a low of 65 during most of the winter,so some of you would just wear shorts to hunt in our winter season. Wet suit or waders always be careful of your surrounding when in the water. Always face upstream when hunting the Rivers so you can see floating objects coming at you. Be aware of rip currents when at the beach.
Good Luck , I am sure you will Love it. HH.
 
I have a farmer john wetsuit and a pair of neopreme waders.
The farmer john bottoms look like bibs and top looks like a shorty wetsuit with long arms.
When the air temp is warm and the water cold (lake michigan) I wear the farmer john bottoms with wetsuit bootys.
When the air temp is chilly and the water is chilly I wear the full farmer john with botty's
or I wear the waders with farmer john top over. for wading purpose's this is basically a dry suit.
When the air is COLD and the water is COLD I put the farmer john bibs and boots on, then the waders and then the farmer john top over to seal everything up.
The wetsuit is 5mm and the waders are 7mm so I actually have 12 mm on my legs. I've hunted in a snow storm comfortably for 2 hrs. Water temp was 32 and air temp was 28. I had on 5mm gloves and full 55mm neopreme hood. I use a sifter so I don't have to pick targets out of scoop.

Flooding neopreme waders doesn't pose much of drowning risk since neopreme floats like a cork. That is why divers have to wear weight belts. If you do decide to wear a weight belt make sure its a quick release belt and that you're very familiar with its operation. If you step into a hole or off a drop off you will not be able to swim to the top with 25# on!

Hope this helps.

Steve
 
I've looked at all 3 options you mention and even though waders can be dangerous I use them, I hunt in the winter when the water is in the 30's and I don't think a wet suit would work for me at those temps :) I use summer weight waders in the warm season and neoprene in the winter... I just picked up neoprene waders at Dicks Sporting Goods for $99.00 which I think is a great price... my summer weight gortex waders from Simms were $279.00

Dry suits are not an option right now because of cost and the fact once you're in them if nature calls your in trouble unless you get them with a front zipper and those are really expensive..
 
I hunt the cold waters of the California beaches and use the farmer John type wet suit. I bought mine from a mail order company called "Overton's".
Phone # 1-800-334-6541 email overtons.com
I have a 3mm suit which I paid $99.99 plus s&h.
I agree with kaptiankosmic aka Steve.
 
I use a whites SARS dry suit it only takes a minute to put on the boots are tough and makes no difference what the weather is. You can buy good used dry suits at dive shops that are on consignment. Mine I got brand new that was made for someone and there search & rescue team was disbanded so he had no use for it. Treasure hunting is perfect for this suit.
I could see where in warm weather it wouldn't work but the cold lakes or ocean is fine. Dan
 
I had never head of a dry suite before and have since done some research and think they look great from a practical perspective, but a bit costly.


Mike:ausflag:
 
NRS (www.nrsweb.com) has some of the best for the money. I purchased the KOKATAT TROPOS SWIFT ENTRY $362. The suit has excellent freedom of movement and is leak free, but has one issue! No place to relieve! You had better git one that does! If not you have a leak internally, savvy? Would also recommend the WAVELITE UNIION SUIT, for some extra added insulation, under the suit. Hey, if you find a piece or 2 of gold over the winter, you could very easily cover the price of the suit, when gold is hovering at $743, per OZ! GH
 
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