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Vista Smart Pinpoint Question.
- Thread starter Dan in Ct
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Frank in NH
Active member
Dan I just tested the pinpoint on my Vista Smart. I find the signal is the same the length of the center strip. Maybe someone else will explain this better.
Sven
Well-known member
No not really, just narrows the width of the target signal some.
Now I don't have the Smart but this may work with the Smart---
On another brand of detector T2 with a NEL Sharpshooter oval DD coil and pinpoint button drove me crazy trying to figure out where the target actually was.
What I figured out. Try to center the target, press the pinpoint button, then draw the coil backwards until the target sound disappears.
The target is now at the tip of the coil, dig. Now for a twist, since your used pinpointing with the concentric, target in the coil center.
The first time you pinpoint, leave your coil over where you think it is centered. Then press the pinpoint button again, wiggle the coil left to right to center the target.
target response will detune and get smaller like a Tesoro. Every time you press the pinpoint to detune it some more, the target location moves towards the coil center
by maybe an inch.. If you can detune three times and you find the target is more towards the center, makes it easier to pinpoint for digging. Just remember if you press the pinpoint button once,
you will have to draw the coil back and dig at the coils tip.
Any Smart owner can try this to see if it will work. If it does it will give you another way to pinpoint a target.
Now I don't have the Smart but this may work with the Smart---
On another brand of detector T2 with a NEL Sharpshooter oval DD coil and pinpoint button drove me crazy trying to figure out where the target actually was.
What I figured out. Try to center the target, press the pinpoint button, then draw the coil backwards until the target sound disappears.
The target is now at the tip of the coil, dig. Now for a twist, since your used pinpointing with the concentric, target in the coil center.
The first time you pinpoint, leave your coil over where you think it is centered. Then press the pinpoint button again, wiggle the coil left to right to center the target.
target response will detune and get smaller like a Tesoro. Every time you press the pinpoint to detune it some more, the target location moves towards the coil center
by maybe an inch.. If you can detune three times and you find the target is more towards the center, makes it easier to pinpoint for digging. Just remember if you press the pinpoint button once,
you will have to draw the coil back and dig at the coils tip.
Any Smart owner can try this to see if it will work. If it does it will give you another way to pinpoint a target.
[size=large]Just to add a little to the previous comments, bury a coin a few inches deep and mark where it is and then practice the pinpointing. That way you can see the response of the coil to pinpointing. Thanks Richard[/size]
Thanks guys. I don't own one yet but am pretty sure that's the Deeptech model I want to get. Seems alot of Tesoro users always say ya don't need a pinpoint button. Maybe its a mental thing but I automatically go for the pinpoint button on every good signal, since the 80s! Hope to be in touch with you soon Richard.
Vincent100
New member
I never use the pinpoint button on my Smart.
IMO there's no need for a pp button on such a fast machine.
With the elliptical coil I just swing the coil backwards until the signal disappears. Your target is then right in front of the tip of the coil. This works really well from shallow up to average depth targets. With deep targets it's a little less accurate.
With a round coil I make an 'X' to pinpoint a target.
IMO there's no need for a pp button on such a fast machine.
With the elliptical coil I just swing the coil backwards until the signal disappears. Your target is then right in front of the tip of the coil. This works really well from shallow up to average depth targets. With deep targets it's a little less accurate.
With a round coil I make an 'X' to pinpoint a target.
Sven
Well-known member
I personally like a pinpoint button, always used one, gets me a better precision pinpoint of the target. Which is especially useful in nice lawns where you don't want to dig pot holes trying to find the target.
Plus by the amount of times I press the pinpoint button I can size the target. If the target detunes with one press to a smaller target, worth digging for example. small coin size target. If its a larger target, it takes multiple times
to detune to a small target sound. If the sound stays the same, then its junk. The pinpoint helps if you know what its telling you. The above was learned over many years using non-motion machines back in the 70's-80's.
And works extremely well with Tesoros and concentric coils. I could generally push my metal probe down into the ground and touch the target. I find with the DD coiled machines pinpointing is not precision. I can get pretty close now. Trick with a motion machine with fast recovery retune is to hold the coil above the target, let the detector detune, wiggle the coil. That bit of motion will pick up a target again but weaker smaller signature. Stop again over the target, let it detune again. Essentially doing what the pinpoint button will do. I am still not 100% accurate or as fast pinpointing with a DD like I am with a concentric. If I was out woods or relic hunting accuracy in pinpointing is not paramount. A lot of nasty holes and big plugs in parks and schoolyards I see are from those who can't pinpoint, they need to dig these wide plugs and then pull out their battery operated pinpoint to probe the holes. By the time these guys find one target, I'll find and dig 3 or 4, providing I have a good machine that can pinpoint accurately. One of the nicest pleasures with Tesoros is the ability with a concentric coil to pinpoint with precision. I try to duplicate this with any brand detector I own, one way or another. Some are much better than others. I prefer not to hunt with others that dig big ugly holed plugs in parks and schoolyards. Learned my lesson not to take those type to places I frequently return to hunt. The grass looks horrible a week later. I don't want to be blamed for it or told I can no longer hunt there. Good thing they have battery operated pinpointers for guys with DD coils that can't pinpoint................
You may not need a pinpoint button to locate a target but, its a very handle control on a detector for those that like them. For me its like using a scalpel instead of a butcher knife.
Plus by the amount of times I press the pinpoint button I can size the target. If the target detunes with one press to a smaller target, worth digging for example. small coin size target. If its a larger target, it takes multiple times
to detune to a small target sound. If the sound stays the same, then its junk. The pinpoint helps if you know what its telling you. The above was learned over many years using non-motion machines back in the 70's-80's.
And works extremely well with Tesoros and concentric coils. I could generally push my metal probe down into the ground and touch the target. I find with the DD coiled machines pinpointing is not precision. I can get pretty close now. Trick with a motion machine with fast recovery retune is to hold the coil above the target, let the detector detune, wiggle the coil. That bit of motion will pick up a target again but weaker smaller signature. Stop again over the target, let it detune again. Essentially doing what the pinpoint button will do. I am still not 100% accurate or as fast pinpointing with a DD like I am with a concentric. If I was out woods or relic hunting accuracy in pinpointing is not paramount. A lot of nasty holes and big plugs in parks and schoolyards I see are from those who can't pinpoint, they need to dig these wide plugs and then pull out their battery operated pinpoint to probe the holes. By the time these guys find one target, I'll find and dig 3 or 4, providing I have a good machine that can pinpoint accurately. One of the nicest pleasures with Tesoros is the ability with a concentric coil to pinpoint with precision. I try to duplicate this with any brand detector I own, one way or another. Some are much better than others. I prefer not to hunt with others that dig big ugly holed plugs in parks and schoolyards. Learned my lesson not to take those type to places I frequently return to hunt. The grass looks horrible a week later. I don't want to be blamed for it or told I can no longer hunt there. Good thing they have battery operated pinpointers for guys with DD coils that can't pinpoint................
You may not need a pinpoint button to locate a target but, its a very handle control on a detector for those that like them. For me its like using a scalpel instead of a butcher knife.
Sven
Well-known member
Just have to add, went out today been a long time since the weather was good enough and had no prior plans.
And with the Vista Gold and the Super 6 coil, pinpoints very nicely and can be reasonably accurate and quick about it.
Not as good as a detector with a non-motion pinpoint but, good enough. Think I dug 100 holes today.
And with the Vista Gold and the Super 6 coil, pinpoints very nicely and can be reasonably accurate and quick about it.
Not as good as a detector with a non-motion pinpoint but, good enough. Think I dug 100 holes today.
Yeah Sven. I feel the same. With my Shadow X2 i can usually tell the size and depth of an item and pinpoint it very precisely. Except with shallow earblaster beer can type signals. In a good spot on the woods, i still will dig those even if i know its junk. Every once in a while its a good item near the surface or unmasks a deeper signal nearby.