VDIs on Racer detectors

[Flintstone]

Hi All Racer fans, I am trying to understand this detector. When you turn it on in pre-set, do you dig all targets above 10 on the vdis? If you get a hit at 20 VDI good sound, is it trash or could it be a good target ? I get a lot of foil that sound good and lock on, which VDIs do you not dig ? I hunt a lot of trash parks and get a lot of hits and end up with a pouch full of trash. Is there any set VDIs that are good targets ? I know everything above 87 is good, what others do I need to dig? Thanks If anyone can post a VDI chart or something that will get me stared. What have you frond at VDI 55, or 43, anything will help. I know everyone will have different things in same VDIs but just some kind of list to let me know a little of what things are. Thanks from a new guy with a RACER. Flintstone

 

[OregonGregg]

I hunt in 3 tones. ID mask set at either 10 or 23 to knock out nails. However I believe 1-40 on the vdi is iron. The best thing is get an assortment of coins and other items ( a few rings, tabs etc) and scan them with your coil to get a pretty good idea where stuff will vdi at. 82 seems to be the problem number. Lol seems a lot of crap falls on that number but so does pennies and seated half dimes....at least the one I checked and scanned on the recent NV trip

 

[Low-Boy/LCPM]

Sometimes you have two targets and it can take a 50 VDI and drop it into the 30 - 40 and then you could have iron in the hole...so gold mixed with another target can bring the reading down also...So I would say in parks don't worry so much about colocated targets as you would when relic hunting

 

[cjc]

Hi Fred
I'm trying to get a handle on what to dig with this machine too--especially in the middle ranges. For sure anything up over 85 needs to be looked at. My air tests of Canadian silver dime come in at 86 although these read higher in-ground. 50 seems to be the top cut off for most foil although some really dense varieties hit up in the 50--jumping around though. An 18k tester ring I use came in way up at 72-73--not that big either. A bit 12 gr. 22k tester came in at 82. Those small pesky oval tabs hit at 61-62 with old style two piece tabs coming in mid 60's with some flickering down into the 50s for the 'tongue'. This machine will be more accurate at low Gain settings, so having the mode you don't search in set to say 50 gain is not a bad idea. For this middle range the tone ID sorts out a lot of bad responses that are wide responding. Look for a narrow VDI for rings and in old school XLT scale VDI terms, 14-16 prime gold is the mid to high 50's on the Racer.
good luck,
clive

 

[Southwind]

The VDI Isn't really a strong point of the Racer but it depends on what you hope to find. I hit a thin gold ring this weekend that had a VDI of 38-39. The ring actually had a good sized rose set but the band was wire and very thin. In trashy parks I ignore any numbers below 63. The sound is the Racers strong point. That smooth tone not the harsh raspy tone. Take a bit of time to learn that tone but you'll know it, most of the time, when you hear it. On the deeper coins most of the time I don't even get a VDI number. I like those smooth faint no VDI signals.

 

[Low-Boy/LCPM]

In my dirt I get that raspy sound mixed in with the tone and most have been good targets could be the dirt?

 

[Bryan V]

It depends on what type of hunting you are doing. I'm not a relic Hunter but I'm assuming you would dig most signals above 40 or so.
Sounds like you are park hunting for coins and jewelry.
Take some of the trash you found and some good targets and test them on your ground to see what the say.
Coins are very distinct on my Racer in all directions. It locks on them with very little number change.
Here are some numbers for my Racer in my ground.

Copper penny
Clad and silver dime all come in at 84-85.

Clad quarter almost always 88 give or take 1 point
Silver quarter. Will go up in to the low 90s
1/2 dollar low 90s

Nickel 54-56

Several small gold rings I have all hit at 49 give or take 1 point.

Zink pennies are usually 82 but can bounce from 78 to 83 if they are corroded.

Silver rings in the 80s

 

[undrpar]

I hunt for coins..at parks i dig 83 and above if its super trashy i listen for the hightone and if like what im hearing and get an occasional good vfi ill dig it..ive dug Minimal trash this way..at old sites i dig it all..

 

[steve herschbach]

Hey Clive,

How you doing? Hope life is treating you well and books sales are good. Glad to see you have a Racer. Fun machine.

40 up non-ferrous (actually all the way down to 30 if you are a nugget hunter) and for brain dead jewelry detecting I just put in DI3 and dig all the mid tones but of course I am after jewelry, not coins. My goal is to clean the world of loose aluminum! You are a master hunter than I though so will narrow it down I am sure. I am more a brute force/long hours guy.

 

[3RINGER]

Most have already spoke of what I was shown and like, Tone over vdi. Like southwind said a lot of my deeper sweet sounding tones have no vdi at all. Over time some of the vdi's will start to stand out and you will be able to associate them with certain items....more you swing the quicker this will happen. For a park hunter I could see where this could take longer due to the items your looking for falling into a broader scale. I enjoy CW relic so my finds are more defined to lead brass ect.

Unless your looking for coins only a lot of foil and tabs will be in the bag but that one you pass up may be the next guys greatest ring find lol

GL and HH

 

[squirrel1]

1-40 is ideally set to be iron/hot rocks. Racer owners try this experiment. Take a clad quarter and a zincoln. Place on clean ground. Continue to space the 2 coins at the furthest distance you can and still get on 1 tone. When you sweep these 2 coins spaced watch the meter. I think you will see readings in the 40s at times, far lower than a clad quarter or zincoln will read individually. So beware of all meter readings. With a tone, could be a good target you're fixing to walk right by based on the lower meter reading.

 

[D&P-OR]

What are you saying---that the Racer doesn't separate well?----I thought that was one of its BIG strong points.

1-40 is ideally set to be iron/hot rocks. Racer owners try this experiment. Take a clad quarter and a zincoln. Place on clean ground. Continue to space the 2 coins at the furthest distance you can and still get on 1 tone. When you sweep these 2 coins spaced watch the meter. I think you will see readings in the 40s at times, far lower than a clad quarter or zincoln will read individually. So beware of all meter readings. With a tone, could be a good target you're fixing to walk right by based on the lower meter reading.

 

[JFlynn]

D&C when you are swinging and get that dig me solid tone mixed in it will blip the TID almost always what you really have under the coil amongst many other metal TID's and if it sounds good you can almost always isolate it to some extent. If it blips a good number and sounds good amongst a lot of other numbers in a small swing dig it. The whole secret to success with these is audio. TID for a second check, it loves good metal. I'll say you should almost never dig foil it just does not sound solid at all. A lot of people having good success and not digging much trash at all that have the audio down. It's a stop you dead in your tracks sound. Keep at it, it will come.

 

[D&P-OR]

Thanks for the explanation Jack, good info!----I've been looking for a top iron worker for sometime now & have been back & forth on getting a Racer.----Been researching/studying, trying to learn everything about them I could find before purchase.----It appears it would fill that niche--especially with the small oor coil.-------Anyway, I finally did break down & order one--it's on the way.------Just too many good reports on this machine to pass up---I gotta see for myself!

D&C when you are swinging and get that dig me solid tone mixed in it will blip the TID almost always what you really have under the coil amongst many other metal TID's and if it sounds good you can almost always isolate it to some extent. If it blips a good number and sounds good amongst a lot of other numbers in a small swing dig it. The whole secret to success with these is audio. TID for a second check, it loves good metal. I'll say you should almost never dig foil it just does not sound solid at all. A lot of people having good success and not digging much trash at all that have the audio down. It's a stop you dead in your tracks sound. Keep at it, it will come.

 

[cjc]

HI Steve
Liked your Bic pen tip test--use it all the time now--Racer definitely passed--especially with the small coil. Shame you can't melt all that aluminum and make an airplane--or at least a few baseball bats...
Mind you--that's the tough guy way --inclusive digging--works, too.
Kind Regards
clive

 

[Elton]

Way to go Del !!

 

[D&P-OR]

Thanks Elton----It'll be fun seeing what it brings to the party!

Way to go Del !!