Vaquero vs Outlaw

[Sataro]

Been away from detecting for many years. I mainly used a White's Spectrum XLT over the years with a Fisher 1235 for competition hunts. Thinking about getting back into detecting. I'm a little older & slower than I used to be. So I'm thinking more about light weight machines. I'm interested in either the Vaquero or the Outlaw. I've heard the Vaquero is a little better on depth though. But then I've heard the notch is really great on the new Outlaw plus the 3 coils with the package is an added incentive. Can anyone tell me their feelings on these two machines. I originally started hunting with a Fisher 1266 so I'm used to hunting without picture id.

 

[Bleaver]

I don't think the Outlaw has a "notch" feature. There is one on the Golden uMax and Cortez.

 

[John (Ma)]

I had the Vaquero, though a good detector, I sold it and now have a Tejon and Silver U. If I had to pick between the two, I like the Outlaw as I think the package deal is a bargain. Yes the V can be super tuned, but I think the Outlaw will have no problem keeping up with more options via coils that com with the package.

 

[razerback408]

if you wont deep go with the v me i have the outlaw great md i had a v and it will go a little deeper but not much for thr money the outlaw cant be beet

 

[tabman]

I like both a whole lot, but I lean towards the Outlaw. The Vaquero may be tad deeper, but it doesn't run as smoothly in iron as the Outlaw does.

Besides, the Outlaw/3 coil deal is hard to beat. On the other hand, the Vaquero is just awesome with the 5.75 concentric coil. It goes super deep and separates well.

I guess that's why I have both.

tabman

 

[BarberBill]

Hard to pick "just one" isn't it?
BB

 

[mojotrout]

I have the Outlaw and as I've learned its nuances, I have begun to find deeper coins with it-- a few at 8-9 inches deep in neutral ground. I have read many testimonials of the Vaq going deeper than that, but it always seems to be finding iron at these super tuned depths (11 inches +) and not silver or copper. Many say the Vaq loses its ability to Disc out iron when super tuned. I dont know that for a fact but have read it several times in these forums. So I would say the Vaquero might be a better pick for deep relic hunting while the Outlaw would shine for coin shooting amongst the trash.

Ive also been told that the Outlaw's lower operating frequency (10.6 kHz) is better for coin-shooting than the 14.3 - 14.7 kHz of the Vaq. Again, I dont know how big a difference this makes, but knowledgeable detectorists are claiming it does make some difference.

 

[Sataro]

Thanks for all of the information. It is appreciated. Now I need to sell a few more bullet inkpens & will be ready to make a final decision.

 

[Rainyday101]

I think the Outlaw has some great positives, but for depth I would rate it as average for it's price class. If Tesoro would have made this a deeper detector I would be all over it. Not that I don't like the Outlaw, but my Silver can come close to it in depth in mild soil. As far as deep coin detection goes, Tesoro has just flat out missed the boat!!! I know the Vaq and Tejon are deep, but they are also higher frequency which is not ideal for silver coins, but great for iron and relics. Tesoro makes some good coin detectors they just don't make any deep ones. My next detector is going to be a deep coin detector so it will probably not be a Tesoro, and that's too bad. I wish somebody at Tesoro would pull their head out of their butt and figure this one out.

 

[tabman]

Rainday101 there's no secret to how a lot of metal detector companies are getting more depth ......bigger coils. The overwhelming majority of the silver coins are not that deep. What's keeping a lot of them hid is masking. Large coils mask more than small coils do and they're heavier. Some guys are kicking butt finding silver coins with the little ole Compadre with its small coil. Finding silver coins is mostly about detecting at a location where they'll located. A deeper detector won't find coins that are not there.

tabman

 

[mudpuppy]

I'd go with the Ace 250...the color attracts wasps which should put a little get up and go in your step and should give you a few colorful stories to tell down at the lodge.:.plus, nobody would ever steal it! rofl:.

Apologies to all! Could not help myself! Mud Out! (drops mic and walks offstage in a haughty manner)

Up and gone before the dawn brothers!

 

[Rainyday101]

Yeah Tabman I agree to a large extent there. My best find was hidden among the trash very well. Most of the areas I hunt have about 2 inches of topsoil and then sand the rest of the way down. The silver is finding wheaties from the forties at around the 6 inch depth. Anything newer is found above that point. That would indicate that older is deeper to me. That might not be the case, but there is only one way to find out. I want a deep seeker that won't break the bank, has great disc, and doesn't love iron or at least can give a seperate tone for ferrous. The Vaq fits the bill except for the loves iron part. Right now I am taking a hard look at some of the European and Bulgarian detectors, but just looking.

 

[Digger 45]

I hunt a park that is watered every other day, making it wet down to 8 to 10" this morning i pulled out a beaver tail at 10" it had a hard strong sound and i lifted the coil at least another two inches before i dug and thought it was only about 4 inches deep. I was using the 8" coil with the outlaw so in wet conditions i believe the outlaw is extremely deep.

This is getting to be a very fun detector, hits right on with nickels and separates nicely on dimes and quarters. Like all detectors you still have to dig pull tabs, but i have noticed a lot more older pull tabs, the kind that are kind of square and beaver tails. Don't mind digging them because thats where the gold is.

I'm sure i will be reporting a nice ring with this unit SOON !!