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Vaquero sounds

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markg

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In the past few months I've read several posts stating things like, "listen with your ears for the different sounds the Vaquero makes". Well I think I can tell if the beep is not the same during the sweep. Maybe the beep breaks up or sounds clipped off. But I must have very bad hearing or something.
Started hunting, well practicing in my yard the last two nights using the built in speaker on my V. Still having a hard time telling the difference if there is a difference. I was told by another detectorist that I had the low tone model. Maybe the high tone is what I need! Ops, rambling on again.........
A man I know here in town bought a Tejon with the adjustable tone, he says he doesn't like it at all. But that may be because he has used the Golden umax for some 5 years now. Oh, yea, back to the subject. Looking for information about the different sounds the Vaquero is supposed to make.......
 
I don't hear the difference either.......Only advice I can give is: if you can get a good repeatable tone on a 'good' target size area than you should dig it. Good targets gave a smoother beep while large junk like Iron and aluminum cans sounded much louder. Sizing the target can help you discriminate the larger junk.

You already know any beep that breaks up is likely to be junk.....that seems to be a strong point of the Vaquero

other than that you just have to dig....... I think its an awesome detector, but I wouldn't want to use one in parks.... Your friend gave up some ID information / discrimination tools when he went from a Golden Umax with different tones to a beep and dig Tejon.......

If we could afford them all we would have them all (detectors)
 
You're exactly right...
 
I know some people get caught up in ads and hype, and the result is they might own 3 or 5 or 8 or more detectors. They are constantly TRYing one or another and never take the time to just learn and master ONE detector before selecting anything that might compliment it.

Just my opinion on the subject. :)

Monte
 
Yep - I get confused sometimes when having to many machines (can one really have to many?).
I have had times when out hunting where I forgot how to do something to a particular machine, or just didn't think of changing this or that setting. Some machines don't get used to often and when giving it a whirl, I found at times "Well lets see, how does this one go again, what certain targets are supposed to sound like, now what where those ID screen numbers).
I had used one of my machines almost exclusively for nearly 20 years. You get to know the machine fairly well in many ways. Well I let that machine go and tried to move on to technology advanced machines. Now I just can't seem to settle on 1,2 or 3 machines. I don't mind having a variety of machines, but it can get overwhelming trying to learn them all well instead of just a machine or two.
Well I let that machine go that I used for many years looking for that extra depth, extra target information, maybe advanced audio qualities etc. (still kicking myself), so I'll have to work harder at learning what I have now.
Each machine I have now has some good things about them, and I really like a few of them, just don't know where I'll be machine wise from one year to the next.
 
Thanks for the reply post. I guess I just need to use my Vaquero until I learn how to listen to what it's trying to tell me.
 
After a 23 year break I got back into MDing 2 months ago. At first I just wanted some thing cheep to get going, so I got a BH quick draw II. It grabs coins real good. I got a 4" coil with it and it works good. It will find nickels and rings.

I wanted to use the BH for a back up and up grade so 5 weeks later I got a Garrett GTAx 500. It had better quality and more bells and whistles but it seemed to be limited just like the BH. I worked with it a week or two but never gave it a chance. I thought it was supposed to be an all around detector, or maby I just didn't take the time with it.

Ten days ago I got a deal on a Cibola. It seems like I've forgotten the other two. All I can think about using is the Cibola.

The BH is a good, easy to use detector. I'll keep it for a backup.

I guess if I could afford it I would get more MDs, but I probably couldn't be any more satisfied than I am right now.

Lucky me!

david
 
I'm at work killing time......lots of posts tonight..heh

I said it'd be a different animal..... yes / no?

How do you like the build quality compared to your BH and Garrett? I give the Tesoros top scores in that department.. they're very solid.. I can't praise them enough
 
Mine to Monte. I've known guys who changed detectors like one changes socks and never mastered any of them and were always complaining because they weren't finding much or making the good finds. When I ran the Garrett Classroom a few years back I ran into a slew of people who were ready to throw their machines under a truck because they weren't finding the good stuff or the old stuff, with only a few hours experience on a new machine. One should spend a minimum of 100 hours with any new machine before they can expect to have any kind of success at all. You can't just pop it out of the box, run out and wave it over the ground,and expect treasures to jump out of the ground. Detecting takes a ton of practice, patience, and perseverance. If you can't combine that trio then you are in the wrong hobby.

Bill(OR)
 
I'm sure there's some people that just don't have what it takes to learn any detector, but some detectors have significant limitations......are much much slower. Knowing the limitations helps, but that doesn't mean they can learn their way to success with them.

Have you tried a .......Fisher Excel or Minelab Quattro? these are not cheap detectors and there's tons of less expensive detectors that will hunt circles around these. Compare the Excel to a CZ.... the Quattro to an Explorer or Sovereign and you'll instantly see that some detectors aren't up to par.

No offense, but I wanted to throw my Garrett GTAX1250 under a truck too. hehehehe "BOING" <-----inside Garrett joke there
 
Ha digetalman

The Bh is light and stout. The two peice pole is stout. But the coil has glue showing between the upper and lower covering. The coil wire just plugs in. No screwing involved. I have had the plug come out. The coil wire is small, looks frail. The disc pot is really aquard to use. I got use to it though. But on the other hand it really hits hard on coins. It is stable in most conditions. 4" coil is nice.

Garrett is heavier but well balanced and you can hip mount the batery pack and it weighs the same as the Cibola. But having that cord and the head phone cord and trying to handle the detector and the digger. It probably looks pretty funny.:super:
The garrett feals flemsy when I swing it, it flexes. It has a three peice pole without locking nuts.
The garrett does about the same thing as the BH and it does it a little better. But the garrett is harder to learn, very unstable when trying to get depth. The weight is too much.

The Cibola is tight and deceptivly strong. Good materials. Design is wonderful.
The Cibola has much less limitations. It works great in all the conditions I have used it in. It just does what it's supposed to. It's the only one I've used that does that so there for I think it's great.

hang in there

david
 
Well, no matter the detector brand or model, the most important thing in detecting
is looking WHERE the treasures are most likely to be! Besides, all ya' really need
is the inimitable COMPADRE..!!
..W
 
You know I've been reading a lot about he compadre lately. Some say it's better in iron infested ground than the Vaquero.
Oh well the Vaquero is what I use.



[quote Wayne/TX]Well, no matter the detector brand or model, the most important thing in detecting
is looking WHERE the treasures are most likely to be! Besides, all ya' really need
is the inimitable COMPADRE..!!
..W[/quote]
 
Yes, well I wasn't completely serious, but the little Compadre is
pretty impressive for its price. An excellent backup to the more
advanced Tesoros and I think the best buy in the business for
a simple but very effective unit. Of course, the Vaq. is a wonder
in its own right as well..!!:thumbup:
 
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