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Vaquero owners

What settings do you prefer and why?

Discriminate, Super tuned discriminate, or All metal.

More than likely (when field hunting) I will hunt in regular discriminate mode as I don't need super depth in plowed fields, but I'm curious as to what most folks use in different types of hunting.

Thanks
 
I run the discrimination between the first and second mark above iron. That's about where a Gatorade Sports Drink Foil Cap discriminates out. I run the sensitivity as high I can and still remind stable and quiet. I set the threshold to where there's a slight hum. I put a mark there with a extra fine point magic marker. I set the ground balance to a slight negative. I keep those exact settings and let my ears do the discriminating. Change the settings and audio tone changes with it and your ears might get fooled. A good set of headphones is a must. I use Killer B's Wasp.

tabman
 
Thanks for the info. I will probably run those exact settings in the field with exception of the gb. I've always ran my detectors slightly positive. Do Tesoros run more stabil negatively balanced?
 
Mine is pretty stable when set with just a little bit of negative ground balance.

Too much negative and it becomes unstable. Too much positive and you lose depth on silver coins.

tabman
 
This was my prime for a long time, don't use it much anymore but still pull it out once in awhile and it always finds the goods.
I have the standard, the 10X12 DD, and the small concentric sniper and they all seem to get great depth.
I used to hunt with the knob just below nickel so I could get most gold rings, that was a mistake and I learned my lesson.
In all metal just a slight hum on the threshold, like most sense as high as I can just below the chatter point in both AM and disc, I can usually get to 8 or even into the red sometimes at a few sites.
In disc my high tone model has a superpower I have not read about from any other high tone owners.
I bought a Compadre and found that I prefer the lower tone better, that high tone became a bit annoying to me and I was going to send it to Tesoro for a free tune up and pay the $15 to let them change it but then I thought about that.
When it comes to aluminum cans and can slaw trash, not just the big stuff but the smaller pieces that come in from nickel on up, that high tone gives me a very tinny and most annoying tone that other targets don't.
When my back teeth gnash and I wince I know I am swinging over garbage like this instantly and about 100%of the time.
It kinda works on the Compadre too, but not as well as that high tone Vaq so I will leave it as it is because I don't want to lose that ability.

In disc, most of the time I will supertune and put the threshold at the 3:00 area, Tesoro says max it out to do this but I don't see much difference going any higher than my setting...and I do get a few deeper and clearer signals supertuned.
I have also used Montie's power balance settings and they seem to work.
In my very mineralized soil back in Alabama I definitely got more signals with this method, but it does set the Vaq slightly more positive and most believe, the folks at Tesoro do for sure, that you could indeed miss deep silver with these settings.
In good soil without heavy mineralization this might not be a great idea especially if you are a deep silver hunter.

I usually set the disc knob at the I in iron at sites where I might find jewelry, I have found some very small and thin chains below the n in iron in the past.
At trashy sites I might move the knob up to the n in iron, or a little past that n if I am coming across a lot of those foil sports drink inserts that tabman mentioned, they come in a hair past the n for me and I like to hunt basketball courts so these are everywhere and my arch enemy.
In really trashy sites or when I am tired I might move the knob up to just below the f in foil...never higher.
All gold rings and all but those very tiny chains in silver and gold have come in from the f in foil on up so I can't take the chance and miss these.


To figure out targets I have never set my knob at one place and dig all beeps with the Vaq or the Compadre, that hunting style drives me crazy.
I have always tried to thumb that knob and make a guess on every target before I dig, just a little game I have always played with myself and I have gotten fast and efficient at this after so many hundreds of hours.
I also don't use the knob the way Tesoro says to do it by moving that disc knob to the fade out point...I haven't done that in years.
I always use a technique that another hunter called "reverse discrimination"...for me a much more accurate way of figuring out targets before I dig.
I set the knob at my lower starting level to get the deepest and clearest signals and thumb that knob up and past the fade out point and then slowly turn it back down while making short quick side to side swipes over the target and listen closely to exactly how the target "comes in".
After digging thousands upon thousands of targets good and bad I have come to the conclusion that good targets will usually just...appear....this way, solid and clear.
Most trash will be a bit fuzzy and noisy before they firm up, if I get crackles or spits or clicks, even a few clicks, that is usually a sign of trash for me and I leave most of these in the ground most of the time nowadays, especially if I get this noise from more than one direction.
This seems to work well on most targets that aren't deep...99% of all targets I have dug were 6" or less in depth, deep targets could act differently.
Many times I have had targets fade out going up in one area and come in going down in another area...going down my way has always been the more accurate method.
This technique is not foolproof, some good signals could come in noisy, especially in the nickel range and lower for some reason, and about 20% of the trash out there will still come in solid like a coin, but I set these digging rules for myself and usually stick to them and my coin and jewelry find amounts satisfy me so I will stick to that method for now till I find something better.

Keep in mind it is all about the tone for me, whether I am using my Tesoros or my Fishers with screens.
If I hear a good tone that triggers my digging instinct I dig it no matter what, noise, clicks chatter or whatever.
No X-Ray vision so I would rather spend the energy and dig it than let the "what if's" bother me forever.
 
I set the sens up into the red a bit . The threshold I usually set at the last 0 on the tesoro emblem , just because I have gotten use to that setting. I set the disc everywhere , depending on the spot and how I am feeling. I prefer minimum disc but cant always leave it there. I have been ground balancing in the middle frequency , to neutral , then switching to the lower frequency. That puts it slightly negative and has worked well .

I am one of the few who dont use headphones even though I know I would do better if I wore them. I just dont like to wear them. I can still tell a lot by the quality of the sound. I listen for soft edges. When the target starts to sound and ends ,if it is not abrupt but has soft edges , that is preferable. Balls of foil have real soft edges and at times drives me nuts.

Recently my Vaquero has been acting quirky. I thumb it up until the signal disappears , I thumb it back down and the signal doesnt come back. I dont like this one bit. I have to play with the disc knob or hit the red pp button , to get the signal to come back. Like it has to be retuned.
 
I ground balanced negative, switch to disc put it max in the red and about 2 o'clock threshold this will go deep . if hunting all metal i use a soft humm and neutral ground balance DD coil quitter in minerals mild ground concentric
 
Great info. guys, much appreciated. So what I'm gathering is that disc. wise you can run into the iron setting in order to get smaller gold and other non ferrous items? Good to know. When hunting farm fields there is virtually no newer trash, so I dig all signals above iron. I would run my F75 at a disc of 6, which would knock out most iron but allow anything else to sound off.
 
i usually run mine with thres. at 2 o'clock, disc at between the two lines above iron (10 o'clock), sense right at 10. with the GB, i read that when you balance in all metal mode and switch to disc, it makes the GB a bit positive. so either i will balance it neutral then turn the gb knob about 1/8 turn neg. or just balance it a bit neg in all metal. that book says a bit neg. GB is good for silver. i did get a 1857 half dime at a good 7 inches before i started running it slightly neg anyhow. i never supertune or power balance. i find it just to unstable and falses a lot. even when i get the sense up in the red, it starts getting chatty also. it's deep enough for me just with everything at the normal settings and stock 9X8 coil. i do thumb the disc also. getting better with the tone. kinda fun guessing. most times i can tell a coin. i have never found gold jewelry. my gal has a small gold ring that disc's out just before the nickel mark air testing. so i guess you do have to dig the low disc, good tones anyhow to make sure. and ive noticed if a signal maxes out on disc and dont find it within 7-8 inches down, with me anyhow, always a can or large iron. i did find 2 clad quarters in the same hole with disc maxed tone. but they were about 5-6 inches. only been detecting since april and the vaq is my first machine ever. so, thats my experiences with it so far. oh, dont buy the rappo brand wireless headphones. the tones kinda echo in them. i would like to use headphones. but, hate the wire. haha
 
Well I got the Vaquero unboxed and was tinkering with air testing a variety of targets in various settings. One good thing I found was that my gold ring hit the same depth as a clad dime, about 10" :). I didn't gain much depth in all metal but could definitely see it's use in areas where there is emi or mineralization. One thing I did notice was that keeping the threshold in the one to two o' clock position, deep targets act modulated, which is pretty cool. With the threshold maxed out the target doesn't fade out , it's just either there or not. Depth is negligible from one o' clock to max. Sensitivity, on the other hand, gained up to three inches on a dime between two o' clock and maxed out. I was able too get a diggable signal up to 13" on a dime with the sensitivity at max. Obviously these observations are only with air testing, but it gives me a good idea where my settings will be! Will post real world results soon. I gained permission to an 1850s site today that isn't grown up with weeds. Hoping to hit it tomorrow! Thanks again for all the input.
 
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