Updated target test matrix.

[BarnacleBill]

It was time to update my air test matrix and add the Excel. The ID’s are at the limit of detection, so they may swing up or down depending on target depth. The gold earring went to +04 at shorter distance, so the ID number went down, though the target was closer. These are air tests with all their possible weaknesses, but through field experience, it is tough to beat a CZ for silver, which matches the air test results. I may not make any friends with this statement, but it is tough to beat the CZ-20. A balanced response to a wide variety of targets, the ability to be used in jungles, rainforests, desert with high mineral levels, the saltwater beach, underwater obviously, and capable of having the absolute snot beat out of it, without missing a beat, puts it at the head of the pack. Talk about a survivalist detector, the CZ-20 is it!

BarnacleBill

 

[Jackpine Savage]

Bill,

Try the chain with the disc set to -6 (iron) and see if you get a response. Thats one of the reasons I like non ID single tone machines for the really small gold. Even at low (below small nail reject) disc settings a detector like the 1270 gives enough audio info to eliminate digging most iron and lets you hear the really small stuff. Can't say that about the V.

HH Tom

 

[BarnacleBill]

but this is a tough test with no pendant and small clasp. And truthfully any machine that does see it will be at the mercy of micro-foil, ooooh now there's a new wading term, "micro-foil", and I haven't even had my first cup of coffee yet. Some of the beaches I visit are cleaned by tractors with road rakes, it grinds the foil into "detector chaff" and plays mixmaster with it.

Micro-foil + Tejon = Wife Beating ''

BarnacleBill

 

[Bill Ladd]

& as long as folks stay in the Fisher family it's all good Selling my CZ-20 was the dumbest thing I did, but I needed money & I was not a water hunter. I just slammed some guy on the Dumpo who said the CZ-20 sucks & only finds iron I told him mail it to me then

 

[Jackpine Savage]

Bill,
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The chain I tested a while back came in at -6 but it was heavier than yours now that I think about it.

Aye, micro-foil what a pain! The MXT is the most sensitive of the detectors I have beach hunted with for hitting on those teeny tiny bits of foil. Fortunately you could get the disc just right so that they sounded ratty and targets with more mass rang good. Great fresh water beach detector if you want to spend hours trying to find tiny tiny pcs of metal... some people do!!

Tom.

 

[Dave Z]

The Cz 20 with the 101/2" coil was one of the deepest machines I ever used.Worked best in the water however.I didn't like swinging it on land for too long.Was heavy,wobbly and the headphones weren't comfortable.But it was deep.I'd swear it was deeper then the 6,6a and 7apro that I had at the time.Dave

 

[Bill Ladd]

on land, or your shoulders will be worse than mine

 

[BarnacleBill]

Being right handed, on land or in shallow water, I hip mount it on my left side. Laying my left hand on the control face, it is easy to hit the pinpoint with my thumb, the coil assy then weighs nothing. While wading once the water gets waist deep, it is time to convert back to normal, as the control housing will want to float, and pivot up on your belt against your hip. The beauty of the mounting system is that in 90 seconds or so you can swap back and forth.

I also use a floating sifter that classifies targets according to size. I did this out of sheer desperation caused by .22cal short cartridges/slugs, and small splitshot. With a scoop having 3/8" to 1/2" holes you can chase these items for half an hour each, as they continue to fall thru the holes. Yes you can put smaller screen into the scoop, but then, when you hit decaying vegetation under the surface of the sand, you have a scoop full of wood chunks, rotted plants etc, with a target hidden in that mess.

The last issue of combining a CZ20 and a scoop is depth. On quarters, many times I take two complete shovel fulls out of a hole straight down, and the target is still deeper, thats two 11" shovel fulls. Third shovel full, I can't even get my foot in the hole to kick the shovel, I have to rock it down in by hand. You would have to haul around a huge/heavy scoop to even stand a chance! Towards the end of the day at times I say to myself, "Is a clad quarter really worth this effort?".

BarnacleBill