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underwater hookah

C

clondike clad

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Hi to all I want to make a Hookha system for water metal detecting.
Ok what do you thank of using this commpressor for going underwater .
5 FOOT IS as deep as I want to go.
Detect the gold and go under with scoop and lignt.
This unit is called the Minimate compressor and puts out 17psi at 6.5 lpm
Will this work for a hookah system for 5 foot of water or less.
If so it will be very small and light..
If i am crazy you will not be the last to say so.
I do use a metal detector and some think i am crazy.:nerd:
Give me your clads worth on how to make this work.
I will post on firstontop.com this project
 
Ok this is what i want to do with this thing.
All i need is the be able to dive for less then 5 min at a time in under 5 foot of water.
this unit puts out 17 psi at 6.5 lpm of air.
 
First thing I would do is Try breathing with it for awhile out of the water... See if you run out of air or not.
Let me know what you find out.
Reaney in NH
 
I can stay underwater but if i move around i need more air.
This unit is a little to small for me and i am a big guy.
This will work or a small guy around a 150lbs not the 270 like me.
I will be looking at this next.
 
how will you power it? I see it uses 110-120 Volts house current? I can't think of a 'battery pack' that would till that bill of electricity. An extension cord in the water isn't an answer.
If you are going to use a generator mounted on a tube to power the device you are still looking for a major electric shock - or electrocution - in the water. If you have to go through all that just to generate power then you're better off with a battery powered (deep cycle marine battery) hookah unit.

For the dollars spent why settle for just 5 feet or so and get a regular hookah and get out there deeper?

Just my own thoughts. Maybe you have the answers for questions already. I do know 110 - 130 volts is not safe in or around the water.
 
Just using a scuba tank floating in an inner tube with a 1st stage on a long hose? They make these on a web site called jsink.com. A standard tank (80 cu ft) in 5 ft of water continually breathing...2 hrs minimum....just using it to go down and check a signal...ALL DAY maybe 2 or 3 days!!! Typical price for tank fill 5-7 bucks. Hope this helps. Kieth-Tx
 
This unit motor can be replace with a 12v motor.
But I need to find a unit that will put out more air.
I can replace most small compressor motor with 12v motor up to 1/2 hp.
I am looking at airbrush compresses.
I want to keep the system very small.
 
There are three items you WILL need....the compressor will HAVE to be oil-less and a small volume bottle will take care of the air capacity needed for short periods. One more thing...the hose wil have to be sturdy to not collapse...even at 5'. G'luck and make sure your living will is signed. Kieth-Tx
 
n/t
 
But for the experience, low price, and lifetime certification...what a deal. And after certification.....if the treasure is 20'...no prob.
 
Looks like the biggest problem is the size of that hose that sends the air. That hose needs to be at least the size of your pinkey (at least) I was looking into making a small hooka myself last summer. Might start it up again. The main idea about the air receiving hose with this low preassure-if you can't breath through the hose on land without pressure......you will not be able to breath under water with low pressure. To see what I mean-try breathing through a straw. Your gonna spit the straw out :) *YOU WILL NEED VOLUME FOR THE MOST PART* MAYBE A RESERVE BLADDER (SOFT RUBBER BAG) THAT WILL HOLD EXTRA AIR (THIS WILL NEED A SMALL PRESSURE RELIEF ALSO)???? let me know what you come up with :) :)
 
Keith,
Its no problem at 20 feet...But if you are like me and can't swim it a BIG problem. I have a beach I would love to hunt in 10/12 foot of water, but like most non divers it will be there for a long time. I know of a lot of stuff that has been lost in this "hole". used to be a floating swing set and I have found a lot of stuff in the 5/6 foot water around it. I have toyed with the idea of hooka also but just can't convince my self to spend that much money for one area. Again I don't swim so I would be very limited in use.

Buddy(TX)
 
I used my finds from hunting shallow water beach areas to buy a small air compressor system.I bought a Briggs 3.5 hp motor from a guy $20 Then went and got a T 80 compressor along with 20 ft of hose, and a regulator Bought it all at a Prospecting shop. Put that all together on a floating platform (float tote). I took it to a couple of places and it worked great.
When you get out there on the water you want to make sure that your breathing equipment is and always will get all the air you need plus more. Your Life depends on it.
 
If that unit uses an oil type compressor, and you are breathing that air, you are a dead man!! Forget about this setup if you want to keep on living my friend!!
I researched all this stuff over the past year ncluding guys who want to dive using inverted 5 gallon buckets attached to garden hose. Crazy, stop the cheapness and spend the money to get proper equipment.This is your life we are talking about here!! Keene Engineering sells a 3.5 horse Briggs engine with T80 air compressor for about $540. You would still need to add their 1 person low pressure regulator/hose setup for another 200 bucks and a reserve tank for 50 bucks and a totefloat to mount the engine and pump on, to float in the water,another hundred bucks,total would be about 900 bucks. This would still save you over a thousand dollars compared to commercially available hookah units that are preassembled for you. Keene engineering sells their units for gold dredgers and they know what they are doing. They do have a website so go check it out. You also need to remember that the sort of thing you want to do is quite strenuous and that requires more air,even at shallow depths.Brownies Third Lung makes a 12 volt electric compressor unit but its only good to about 6 feet ,cost is around 700 bucks,may as well just get the heavy duty Keene setup instead at 900 bucks.
--Tom,ps, the reputable Hookah makers all recommend you take a dive course for safety. I was gonna skimp on this myself but I hear panic underwater is what kills most divers, even the pros. And lets face it, most of the swim holes have murky water and some with strong currents.What do you do if you can't tell which way is up or a current rips your dive mask off and you panic?
 
you need a power source and alot of cord ........as was pointed out it looks dangerous ........I aint saying spen 1000 bucks but i am saying be careful with whatever you chose to do ........people drown out there and its alweays an acident,most of the time its just a slight mishap .......just be careful...........a couple gold rings aint worth your life .........
 
tvanwho
You are 100% correct. A $1000 for training and the right equipment will pale in the cost for brain or lung damage or even death from one of these home built Darwin rigs:goodnight:. I hope you give your love ones a DNR before you go out it will save them a lot of grief:cry:.
Explorer
 
Whoah! Whoah!,

DON'T use this compressor under any circumstances! It is oil lubricated. You need to have a compressor that is not oil lubricated. The oil is vaporized by the heat of the compressor and compression of the air. If you breathe this oil laden air, you'll be one sick puppy! Believe me! I got bad air when scuba diving in 1972 and it was an experience I'll never forget. There are several companies that make safe hookas or try looking in the Keene catalog for small compressors that can be adapted to your use. Your life and health is worth more than saving a few bucks.
 
As a certified public safety diver...in a word...no...it will not work...it will not deliver the volume of air that is required, and at best, would not have enough pressure to supply the air needed at 5' in depth. At the surface you are at one atmosphere, of which air is at 14.6 pounds per square inch...at 33' in depth this will need to be doubled, or 29.2 psi.

Beyond not working...your life is not worth trying to run on the least expensive method. A gold ring or a few bucks of clad is not enough for me to experiment with my life on.

When your life depends on any equipment, you must buy the best, and maintain it...it is the exceptions, inexperience and the rarities that kill people.

Today's SCUBA equipment, when used by a certified individual is very safe. On the other hand, the physiological effects on the body during diving still have some unknowns...thus you must be trained to avoid the effects to your body.

I hope this helps...
hh Ken
 
:rofl: Hey great joke. Sorry but you will need a minimun of 14 Litters of air just to stand up. Detecting could nearly double the volumse required. Even if you had a place to plug it in you would suffacate shortly. according to research, mowint the lawn requires 39 liters per minute. Your little toy will only provide 6 lpm. :rofl:
 
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