TTF

[mike4663]

Hi I'm new to the etracs, today I was hunting in ttf at a 1850 farm house, this was my 4th hunt overall and 2nd in ttf. I found the depth to be off and was wondering if this is normal in ttf, I found clad at 1" that said 6" on the machine and found some at 6" that said 6". I did find a 1913d wheat, a 1907 indian and a no date slq all in one hole. This being my 4th hunt I was happy, ive got 2 silvers, 4 wheats and a indian in 4 hunts + about $10.00 in clad. One thing that worries me is no nickels yet,( coming from a mxt which was a nickel hog ) ive been diggin signals 10-12 to 14-20 with only foil can slaw and pulltabs to show for it. I must Thank goesforever as i have been using his settings. Thanks in advance Mike

 

[pointer80]

Mike I've used TTF and haven't notice the depth being off. One thing that might be happening is when you pin point your target your machine might be locking on to the junk iron target right next to the good conductive target. That is the great thing about TTF is that it will pull good targets right next to iron but, The pinpointing can be tricky when targets are right next to each other. As far as nickles go you should have no problem pulling nickles at all. I think the e-trac is a nickle magnet, at lest that is the experience I've had. If you want more info I would PM. Terry(Goes4ever) as he is a master at the TTF set up. Good luck and HH.

 

[mike4663]

Mike I've used TTF and haven't notice the depth being off. One thing that might be happening is when you pin point your target your machine might be locking on to the junk iron target right next to the good conductive target. That is the great thing about TTF is that it will pull good targets right next to iron but, The pinpointing can be tricky when targets are right next to each other. As far as nickles go you should have no problem pulling nickles at all. I think the e-trac is a nickle magnet, at lest that is the experience I've had. If you want more info I would PM. Terry(Goes4ever) as he is a master at the TTF set up. Good luck and HH.

Thanks for the reply, when I dug for the target I always found the coin and with a quick rescan on the hole that was the target. I am now wondering if its because I use the wobble method to pin point and it reads off the center of a 11" coil, my whites always pin pointed off the center always read deeper if not centered.

 

[Goldmanjace]

ok what doest TTF

 

[moonshine]

TTF = Two Tone Ferrous

you change the sounds from conductive to ferrous and from multi to two

 

[silvereagle]

Hi I'm new to the etracs, today I was hunting in ttf at a 1850 farm house, this was my 4th hunt overall and 2nd in ttf. I found the depth to be off and was wondering if this is normal in ttf, I found clad at 1" that said 6" on the machine and found some at 6" that said 6". I did find a 1913d wheat, a 1907 indian and a no date slq all in one hole. This being my 4th hunt I was happy, ive got 2 silvers, 4 wheats and a indian in 4 hunts + about $10.00 in clad. One thing that worries me is no nickels yet,( coming from a mxt which was a nickel hog ) ive been diggin signals 10-12 to 14-20 with only foil can slaw and pulltabs to show for it. I must Thank goesforever as i have been using his settings. Thanks in advance Mike

might also want to try and and turn down the VARIABILITY this to will affect depth on the depth scale,I hope this helps

 

[Goes4ever]

Mike I've used TTF and haven't notice the depth being off. One thing that might be happening is when you pin point your target your machine might be locking on to the junk iron target right next to the good conductive target. That is the great thing about TTF is that it will pull good targets right next to iron but, The pinpointing can be tricky when targets are right next to each other. As far as nickles go you should have no problem pulling nickles at all. I think the e-trac is a nickle magnet, at lest that is the experience I've had. If you want more info I would PM. Terry(Goes4ever) as he is a master at the TTF set up. Good luck and HH.

Thanks for the reply, when I dug for the target I always found the coin and with a quick rescan on the hole that was the target. I am now wondering if its because I use the wobble method to pin point and it reads off the center of a 11" coil, my whites always pin pointed off the center always read deeper if not centered.

when I use the wiggle method to pinpoint, which is 99% of the time, I wiggle coil back SLOWLY until the signal goes away, STOP, then dig directly IN FRONT of the coil, works everytime for me.....did you watch my video?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Rv_VrWjHUM

 

[muconium]

I'm a new owner, just trying to get experience, but was reading another post on the "Gain" setting, which might address your depth-level problems:

"With the higher gain, 15 or higher, everything sounds the same to me. 2" targets and 8" targets sound just as loud. (as they should by design of the gain setting). This may explain why I've been digging so much clad. I get a valid signal showing 8" and dig it only to find out it is clad coin at 1" or 2"."

I have my Gain set according to Goes4Ever's settings and don't get a valid depth reading from the meter... That's fine, I'm going to dig it anyways, but knowing this about high Gain settings makes me want to play around with it more in places where I suspect deep coins...

 

[Goes4ever]

something is wrong because I can easily tell the difference between a shallow 2" and a deep 8" coin

 

[muconium]

something is wrong because I can easily tell the difference between a shallow 2" and a deep 8" coin

I'm just starting out, G4E. This is my third day with the Etrac. My ears aren't trained yet. I kept looking at the depth-meter before digging yesterday and was taking out deep plugs expecting I had more digging to do and was finding my coin in the plug.

BTW, I come to the Etrac from Tesoroland. My ears are highly trainable! I'm also familiar with turning up the threshold on my Vaquero to magnify deep coins and losing the difference between soft and loud signals....

ALSO: I hunted exclusively in TTTF with quick mask on today. It felt very comfortable to do so! Again, I think that's a Tesoro trait. TTF in Quickmask just may become my everyday hunting mode....

 

[Goes4ever]

ok this might help you, when you get a coin signal, slowly wiggle your coil back, just like in my video above, and watch your depth meter, when the meter shows the SHALLOWEST depth that is the depth it is truly at, if your seeing 8" depth and the coin is at 2" then your looking at the depth meter when your coil is not directly over the coin, make sense??

 

[elki1052]

Okay here are my 2 cents of info, I think I may have a earing problem because over the weekend I try for the first time the TTF and it drove me nuts it was to much noice and I was unable to tell the diference on nothing, so I give up and right after that I found my first 14K gold ring, I guess I'm more use to the multitone because with the tones I can destingush much better what type of target is under my coil.
Do you think that my problem with the TTF is the size of coil that I'm using? (WOT15") or I just not set it up right.
thank you!

 

[muconium]

Okay here are my 2 cents of info, I think I may have a earing problem because over the weekend I try for the first time the TTF and it drove me nuts it was to much noice and I was unable to tell the diference on nothing, so I give up and right after that I found my first 14K gold ring, I guess I'm more use to the multitone because with the tones I can destingush much better what type of target is under my coil.
Do you think that my problem with the TTF is the size of coil that I'm using? (WOT15") or I just not set it up right.
thank you!

Elki, I think a big coil like that would really drive me nuts, too. Even the stock coil was too big for me today... TMI: Too much information, too many targets under your big coil, all at once.

All my sites that have the possibility of older coins are really really trashy but it's a relief for me to be able to isolate a few high signals and check their numbers. This ability is way beyond my Tesoros which I have to dig every target to see what it is.

 

[muconium]

ok this might help you, when you get a coin signal, slowly wiggle your coil back, just like in my video above, and watch your depth meter, when the meter shows the SHALLOWEST depth that is the depth it is truly at, if your seeing 8" depth and the coin is at 2" then your looking at the depth meter when your coil is not directly over the coin, make sense??

Yes. I wish their was a way to "freeze" the TID numbers and depth for the high-sounding target, though. In trash, I seem to always hit on non-target iron as I move the coil away from the target and it throws off my numbers before I can read them and try to remember what something like a "11-20" might be. I really do feel like I'm getting the hang of this pretty quick, though!

Thanks for your advice!!

 

[Goes4ever]

Okay here are my 2 cents of info, I think I may have a earing problem because over the weekend I try for the first time the TTF and it drove me nuts it was to much noice and I was unable to tell the diference on nothing, so I give up and right after that I found my first 14K gold ring, I guess I'm more use to the multitone because with the tones I can destingush much better what type of target is under my coil.
Do you think that my problem with the TTF is the size of coil that I'm using? (WOT15") or I just not set it up right.
thank you!

the 15" coil is way too big to be using anywhere that is even slightly trashy! you need a smaller coil for sure. The stock coil does a fine job and I use mine 90% of the time

 

[elki1052]

Now I know what are you talking about, I try the stok 10" and the 12X10 SEF and what a diference, mainly with the SEF a lot more easy to destingush the targets and you are right to many targets under the coil at the same time,
thank you muconium and goes4ever.
I think now I may be getting a smaller coil for that.
any particular coil that you recomend?
Thank's

 

[elki1052]

Goes4ever, I will like to thank you for your video about pinpinting, it is the GREATEST thing after tacos because now I use it exclisively and I'm becaming bery good at it, some times I miss the target just by the side of the plug but 93 to 97% I'm dead on center. and that is with my WOT 15" but with the stock 10 and the 12X10 I'm 99% dead on center. and my plugs are not biger that 3" in diameter.
your information is great.
Thank you!!!

 

[Goes4ever]

Goes4ever, I will like to thank you for your video about pinpinting, it is the GREATEST thing after tacos because now I use it exclisively and I'm becaming bery good at it, some times I miss the target just by the side of the plug but 93 to 97% I'm dead on center. and that is with my WOT 15" but with the stock 10 and the 12X10 I'm 99% dead on center. and my plugs are not biger that 3" in diameter.
your information is great.
Thank you!!!

thank you for the kind words! I think more people would love it if they used it, to me it is the MOST accurate way to PP

 

[silvereagle]

Goes4ever, I will like to thank you for your video about pinpinting, it is the GREATEST thing after tacos because now I use it exclisively and I'm becaming bery good at it, some times I miss the target just by the side of the plug but 93 to 97% I'm dead on center. and that is with my WOT 15" but with the stock 10 and the 12X10 I'm 99% dead on center. and my plugs are not biger that 3" in diameter.
your information is great.
Thank you!!!

thank you for the kind words! I think more people would love it if they used it, to me it is the MOST accurate way to PP

do you use the TTF all the time?or do you mix it up according to location?

 

[Goes4ever]

I use it according to location, conductive mode is my mode of choice if the area allows it!