Ok, I have to tell this story. Went hunting(or tried too)Saturday here in northern Michigan and it was just nasty. Snow, drizzle, wet and muddy. We started off at a 100+ year old church camp that has been hunted allot but is always good for a target or two. This is a good place to use my 13" ultimate coil because not very trashy. Only found some clad and the coil kept getting covered in slush and weighing a ton. We then moved a little south to a old two story school that had no snow on the ground but this place is so trashy, it has trash fifty feet out from the actual building in all directions? I decided to hunt in TTF but was too lazy to take my 13" coil off. At that point I was wet and muddy and cold. Normally I would switch to my 6x8 sef coil. Even with the big coil I manged to pull out two wheaties amongst constant grunting of iron. I showed a new hunting partner I was with and he was amazed how TTF works. He could not even hunt this spot with his xlt because of the trash. I am amazed at how the 13" ultimate coil can separate and also how TTF settings will weed through the trash and find the good stuff. HH all.