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Tough Question About SE Pro and Me

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cometguy

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I want to start out by saying I have found things with my Explorer. I am starting to understand its tones. I just think I am happier with a two, three or four tone machine. I have a chance to ease into a two week old Xterra 705 and not loose any money on the deal. I have never used an Xterra but have a friend with one and have watched some of the videos. I think the four tone system would fit into my other detectors better. I guess I wonder what you guys think I am giving up by jumping over to the 705? I'm not a fan of the multi tone and I have a hard time slowing my swing down to match the Explorer. Do you think I would help myself with this change?

Don
 
Don, I have tried about 25 to 30 detectors in the 3 years I have been detecting. as far as depth there are detectors that compete with explorer/etracs. but depth with id is a different story. detecting with iron explorer is really good. i sold an etrac and explorer and tried some other brands. i will always have an explorer, much better than everything out there. CBailey
 
cometguy --

I think CBAILEY makes a very good point...if your soil is AT ALL mineralized (which most are -- except for "young" soils such as are found in "farmland" areas such as parts of the midwest, and places like Florida), then the FBS units are close to unbeatable in terms of ID on deeper coins. It has to do with the multi-frequencies...a single-frequency VLF machine CAN compete, ID-wise, with the FBS units in VERY GOOD/MILD soil -- and can absolutely surpass them in terms of depth. BUT -- if you want to ID coins to maximum depth, the FBS units cannot be beat in my experience, in anything but the most mild of soils. I have never tried an X-Terra, so can't say for sure, but I have tested MANY VLF units, and NONE of the ones I've tested surpass FBS in that ONE aspect -- accurate ID with depth.

Having said that, if you really, really don't like the multi tones, and don't think you can ever get used to them, then a switch is certainly worth considering. I will say this, though...the "language" of the Explorers takes awhile to learn, but for most users, the multi-tones eventually turn out to be an ASSET, not a liability. But everyone is different, and if you really don't see yourself "growing into" the multi tones, they it is definitely something to think about.

I will say one more thing...which you may not know but may help you out. That is, you CAN reduce the number of tones on your Explorer; that's what variability does (in theory, anyway...I haven't personally tried it). Variability set to maximum (10) gives you the maximum number of tones which get assigned to different ID numbers. If you lower that, you are lowering the number of tones that you are allowing the machine to utilize -- i.e. lumping more ID numbers into a tone. The lower the variability, the larger the range of ID values you are shoving into a lesser number of tones. If you set variability to "1," (the minimum) I'm pretty sure that you have now set your machine to use a single tone for ALL ID values (not POSITIVE, though, as I haven't tried it; I always have run my variability at "max," but I think what I am telling you is accurate). Likewise I am pretty sure that choosing a variability number just above the minimum of 1 -- say, 2, or 3, would result in just a few tones used by the machine for the entire range of ID values. You might find that a variability of, say, 3, will give you, essentially, a "four-tone" machine...

Hope this helps...

Steve
 
In a nutshell Explorer series probably has the best guts of any unit on the planet but indeed a slow swing is needed an good tonal interpetation is a plus but not for everyone.

705 in its own right is a good unit but it won't go as deep as an Explorer but its a nice light unit with the tones you are looking for plus can take a faster swing and to me sounds like a good idea in your situation.

This is not something I read as have used both Minelab varieties...and comes from personal experience.
 
If you arent comfortable with your equipment then you wont ever use or trust it. How many coils you getting with it to change freqs. It was an interesting play off the Eurica that switches to 3 freqs. Its a ML..... cant go wrong with that. DUDE SERIOUSLY 30 DETECTORS?????

Dew
 
I feel that for any reason you are not comfortable with a detector move on. Sure you can force learn it..and even do well.
But it never leaves you that all isn't feeling good about using the machine in question. Hey it's a Hobby..Something for fun. if your not having fun with the machine.. Look for something you like to use.

Again ..just my opinion, and sure doesn't mean it's right..I'm just relating from my own experiences with different detectors.

What ever you do..Good luck and hope you find a ton of good coins and relics..
 
I have made up my mind to pass on the Xterra and spend this summer with the SE Pro. I think since I know that it is a weapon in the right hands I may be more willing to give it a chance. It is not going to be my main detector, I think it is too slow. I see it as a take your time, hunting alone, going back to sites and really hunting. In the right mood and situation I think I will enjoy learning the SE. Thanks for the advice and trust me I will be back for more. I want to give this technology which is so different from my main machines a chance.

Thanks again, Don
 
[size=large]i have felt the same way about keeping my expl. se. i enjoy it when i'm in the mood to hunt slow and want to learn it more. my main machine depends on my mood of the day.

HH[/size]
 
Elton.... you have the right attitude. If you struggle and dont like something.... move on and try new machines. A hobby is ment to be fun to YOU... its not a competition its all about the pleasure those found targets bring you.

Dew
 
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