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Tornado coil cable issues

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straker

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Has this happened to your Tornado coil? I know of 2 people who have the 10" Tornado coil and their cables are splitting. :thumbdown:
It's a wonder I haven't heard of this happening before.
 
Straker

How old is your Tornado

Peter down-under
 
Wow! That's not good. :thumbdown:
 
straker said:
Has this happened to your Tornado coil? I know of 2 people who have the 10" Tornado coil and their cables are splitting. :thumbdown:
It's a wonder I haven't heard of this happening before.
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The coil was included in the purchase of the Minelab Sovereign GT in Oct.2009.
I used the coil for 2 month prior to changing over to a "Minelab Approved" CoilTek 15" DD WOT coil which by the way is still intact without any signs of cracking.
The Tornado coil was simply put on a shelve with other coils for spare the cable changed colour (gray) with time and when taken down for closer inspection was found to be brittle and breaking apart.

There was a patch of genuine Minelab coils with inferior cable insulation, but the owners was never contacted (so much for registration) and there was never a recall of the bad patch, more like a hush, hush :shrug:

ivanll
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I'm the owner of the coil in the picture, but I didn't post it here.
 
Another reason i was told to reconsider hip or chest mounting my Xcal. There is a LOT of constant twisting both while detecting and when loading and unloading your machine. If there is a coil cable issue it will show up.

Dew
 
My Ecxalibur II 1000 had never been hip or chest mounted and still cracked! I sent Minelab an e-mail asking what they might do about it? They play the blame game with the owners! It's you fault!

"I have a few questions in regards to your issue. There are a few things that can lead to the symptom you are describing. Improper care is usually the main culprit. After use the machine needs to be hosed off and cleaned, especially if you have been in salt water. Salt water is very corrosive and can rot the rubber shielding if not properly cleaned. The second thing is people leave the machine in their garage where the temperature changes can also effect the coil cabling making it brittle. And lastly, if the cable is wrapped in place and never unwrapped to relieve the tension the cable will start to form and when it
 
I copied ivanll's photo. The other coil is from a friend who just bought a Sov XS and his 1000 Tornado coil has the same issue. I will try to get the serial number on it in a few hours.
 
whoa that is extreme. please put up the serial numbers of the coils that occured on. Ive never seen this before
 
Maybe I missed this is the past, but I think the most important thing here is Minelab Customer Service answered a post!
Great Customer Service Minelab!!!!!
 
I have three of those coils. Two before that serial and one after. I don't have anything like that happening to mine. Good Luck getting it resolved.
 
ML seems to be saying hip mounting which allows more movement is better than just leaving it on the shaft. I always clean mine after every even if it hasnt been in the Ocean it still gets salt on it. Are you using plumbing silcone or spray on Goodmore?

Dew
 
I use the spray. But I just soak a paper towel and go down the wire one time with it. I have actually seen pictures of other degraded coil wires. So I just started doing it. I'm just trying to get the most mileage out of my equipment.
 
Here is the serial # of the other coil. 11007. Ivanlls' is 20XXX. That is quite a spread. I had hoped both #s were closer together. Hal(BigDawg) just bought the coil and it had electrical tape on it. It's in various areas along the coil. He took the tape off and seen the insulation was cracked.
 
straker said:
Has this happened to your Tornado coil? I know of 2 people who have the 10" Tornado coil and their cables are splitting. :thumbdown:
It's a wonder I haven't heard of this happening before.
Click to expand...


My guess is that the cable was exposed to extreme heat or the sun (Left in a car) or possibly a solvent or harsh cleaner. Occasionally applying a light coating of silicone or a UV protector such as Armorall or UV 303 Aerospace should help prevent cracking and hardening of the plastic.
 
ZOFCHAK said:
straker said:
Has this happened to your Tornado coil? I know of 2 people who have the 10" Tornado coil and their cables are splitting. :thumbdown:
It's a wonder I haven't heard of this happening before.
Click to expand...


My guess is that the cable was exposed to extreme heat or the sun (Left in a car) or possibly a solvent or harsh cleaner. Occasionally applying a light coating of silicone or a UV protector such as Armorall or UV 303 Aerospace should help prevent cracking and hardening of the plastic.
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Your guess is incorrect,..................... sunlight and UV rays in daily use yes,................ there is no excuse for inferior quality.
 
I wonder how many others are doing this, then it would be nice to know where they hunt with these coils as the serial numbers are far apart to say it is a bad batch of coil wire. From the looks of the cable it is white looking like it is used or was used in salt or something used on the cable to turn it white.
These are the only 2 I have heard of having a problem so wondering if they were exposed to something they shouldn't be or not being washed off after using them in salt water. One of my customers hunts down in FL all winter with his Excal and told me he has to wash it off with clean water after every use on the beach.

Let see how many others have had this same problem and where the coils were used.
 
Rich i live here in Fl..... the salt is something elce. I come home and my shirt looks and feels like its been heavily starched..... it turns white. It will take its tole on anything metal or electronic quickly if you dont maintain it.... heck even if you do. Is there a way to RE-cover these wires? I assume its just as cheap to replace them thru ML. Compared to some of the dirt machines its a pretty thin coating on the coil wire.

Dew
 
ivanll said:
ZOFCHAK said:
straker said:
Has this happened to your Tornado coil? I know of 2 people who have the 10" Tornado coil and their cables are splitting. :thumbdown:
It's a wonder I haven't heard of this happening before.
Click to expand...


My guess is that the cable was exposed to extreme heat or the sun (Left in a car) or possibly a solvent or harsh cleaner. Occasionally applying a light coating of silicone or a UV protector such as Armorall or UV 303 Aerospace should help prevent cracking and hardening of the plastic.
Click to expand...

Your guess is incorrect,..................... sunlight and UV rays in daily use yes,................ there is no excuse for inferior quality.
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While Minelab can rightfully be accused of having inferior customer service, "Inferior quality" and Minelab coils rarely end up in the same sentence. Most of their coils are built like tanks and take years and years of abuse without failure. Perhaps these failing coils did have a bad batch of cable and hopefully Minelab will address it. I have had and seen dozens of the Minelab coils and have never seen failures like shown above.
 
Is there a way to RE-cover these wires?
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3:1 heat shrink tubing is also available with a "dual-wall" construction. It is called dual wall because it is actually made up of two different materials together. One wall - the outer wall - is Polyolefin heat shrink. The second wall (hence the name "dual wall") - the inner wall - is a hot melt adhesive. When exposed to heat (usually a bit lower than the activation temperature of the heat shrink), the inner layer begins to flow (just like a hot melt glue). When the tubing shrinks and cools down, inner layer forms an adhesion layer between the tubing and the component or wire. This provides a water-tight seal, protecting the connector and/or wire. It also allows the tubing to stick to the substrate. This is why this tubing is also called adhesive lined heat shrink tubing..comes in 4 foot lengths and not as flexible but works great for repair of cracked/damaged coil cables


http://www.buyheatshrink.com/heatshrinktubing/3to1adhesive.htm#B




I have been looking for a source on 5 lead coil cable and this is as good as I can find, anyone seen a vender that sells the stuff?
http://cableorganizer.com/igus/pvc-power-cables/#features 4 lead is 8.6 mms, need 6 to 7 mm
 
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