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Tone ID, everyone has an opinion.

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I am brand new to the Explorer I come from a DFX backround. I read all of this talk about tone id and it is the way to go but am I missing something. Why would you want to risk not hearing a signal just so that you can tell if it is a coin or a pull tab without looking at the screen. I run my DFX with tone id off, each target sounds identical I look to the screen for info once I find a target. Please give me feedback as to why tone id is so great. All of those growls and beeps are so confusing to me. And just for the record all though I hate it I am going to give it a fair shot before I turn on const, I just need some convincing. Thanks all and HH.
 
Who says that you will lose depth if you turn off tone ID with the Explorer? I believe that you are deeper in Tone ID with the Explorer. Not necessarily so with the Sovereign. However you will go crazy if you try to hunt in allmetal in trashy areas and tone ID helps you hear (separate) the coin signal next to the iron..
However, some like to hunt in allmetal or single tone ID and dig every signal? For them and maybe you.. you should hunt the way that is comfortable and gives you confidence.
Jim
 
I guess my philosphy is this: If you have iron discriminated out and get a tone on a target I dig it, so why chance not hearing it with all of those tones. Is that how you get the separation of targets. On my DFX if I get a tone I go into pinpoint mode (all metal, no motion mode) and I can see how many targets are next to each other and what there VDI numbers are (VDI is just like the crosshair on the Explorer). If iron is discrimanated out I should'nt hear that tone no matter which method I use, correct? Now please don't take me the wrong way, I am a creature of habit and my habits lay in the "old style" of detecting. I need to learn the Explorer way and understanding it is helping me learn. I appreciate all the help this is definatly a huge learning curve and all of your help is invaluable. Thanks again and HH
 
Sam,
I've only the a DFX once so not able to make a good comparison with were you are coming from.
Basically the tone I.D. allows you to detect without having to look at the screen each hit. Many of the places I detect will have a half dozen/ dozen targets each sweep of the coil. If you stopped to look at the screen for each hit you would die of old age before finishing a single boulevard. Use the tone sounds to determine whether to check the screen, at first it is almost overwhelming but eventually it will become second nature. Trust us and hang in there, everybody has had to go through the learning curve.
And... your probably going to ask- Shouldn't the discrimination keep the bad tones from occuring.? Theoretically yes, but it doesn't work that way. Even with iron discrimination on you will still get a lot of iron falsing that sounds like good targets. And on deeper targets, on edge targets, targets mixed in with trash you will can get a different reading each time you sweep the signal. The explorer tones tend to be more accurate ,repeatable, and much quicker than the screen icon. Most people tend to run the explorer with a little discrimination as possible, and use the tones to determine whether to dig or not. Maybe the next generation of detectors will have more processing power for the screen and be as accurate as the tones but it isn't the case yet.
HIT (hang in there) and HH
 
Trust me I have had great success transitioning from my to DFX to the XS.
The XS is also in All Metal when you pinpoint.
The difference is the DFX will not compare in depth to the XS, nor does it have the ability to discern a target by Condutivity & Ferrous Content.
Not to mention the DFX is only 2 Frequency (which happens to be Minelabs Old outdated patent they sold them), Minelab uses up too 28.
Yes, there is little doubt the XS has a longer learning curve but for the few that stick it out and learn the machine are the ones reaping the rewards <IMG SRC="/forums/images/smile.gif" BORDER=0 ALT=":)">
 
I use the tone ID and then look at the screen sometimes. Deep iron fools me sometimes but then I just slow up. Good luck!! But if you are from NJ go back to the DFX. And tell me where you hunt LOL
 
Well it's like seeing your buddy 100' away waveing his/her hands you know that he/she is trying to get your attention but you just can't make out what he/she is saying so you walk over.
If your using tone ID it would be like seing your buddy 100' away waveing his/her hands to get your attention AND hearing thier voice over a walkie talkie TELLING you about what he/she has found so there's no need to walk over to your buddy.
Both ways get your attention.
Tone ID will TELL you more about the target,Is it round,does it have corners,is it buried with another target all of these are hard to hear(soil conditions,minerials) but they can be heard with tone ID and maybe other qualitys of targets.
I feel as long as you know what your missing or geting from any setting you can be intelligent about your choice of settings for any hunt condition.
 
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