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Ron from Michigan

Ron from Michigan

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My biggest problem now is finding a park close to my area to search.Drove across town to metal detect with my older brother.His suggestion an old semi gated park on a near by lake.There was no place to park at the sub division park so I parked at the boat club and walked a quarter mile to the park.Huge old trees in the park with crab grass,this is good,because well groomed grass usually equal lots of fill dirt.My finds for the short hunt 5 wheat's the oldest 1937,five clad dimes 3 in the mid sixties,2 quarters one a deep buried 1965 a good indicator silver is there.Interesting finds for non coins a button and a barrette that looks like a skeleton key.I Searched the park for about an hour an half until my battery died and didn't think to bring the spare and would have to track back to the car.My brother and I was approached by a guy at the boat club and asked if we found anything and also added that the restaurant makes a great hamburger and fired fish.LOL I guess networking is in order,the cost of a lunch isn't too high a price to pay to be able to metal detect at a decent park.
 
Not bad Ron. Like I've said before, wheat's get a bad rap, when you find wheat's silver isn't far away,especially the early ones. You had a good hunt.
Good hunting,Gary
 
Gary,my usual routine is always find a few wheat's before I strike some silver.I used the Tornado 10 inch and was getting great depth.My younger brother from Virginia drove to Charleston WV to metal detect at a park we hit a while back.He was talking to me on the cell about how his hunt was going with him and my uncle at the same time I was hunting LOL the age of networking.He found a 2 cent piece in VA last week.
 
Ron,
5 wheat pennies for a short hunt ain't bad... I hunted all day yesterday and ended up with only 4.
I agree with you ... when you find wheats there's sure to be some silver there too.
It seems that I don't find much silver until I have just about stopped getting any good signals and then
the silver starts coming to light with surprisingly good signals.. I can't figure it out.
I usually find the wheats first and then the silver like you stated.. always a good sign to find wheaties.
Felix
 
Felix I went back today for a couple hours hunt.My first signal a deep penny can't tell from the thick green crust if it's any early wheat or Indian.One sweep later with the coil and my lower rod asm broke at the bottom.First one I broke, probably a fracture from using a WOT a while back.About a three minute hunt,disappointed but these things happen.
 
Every day you can get out and hunt is a good day Ron. Wheaties are good for me and there should be some silver there.
 
Ron,
Sorry to hear of you misfortune, but at least you got an old coin and have only a slight and inexpensive breakdown.
Hope you get it back up and running soon and finding that deep silver!!
Felix
 
Felix,lower rod asm 39.95 plus shipping from two different places not bad.After checking my nail pouch one clad and the crusted penny 1924.The place shows signs of a good place to hunt.Thanks
 
Nice report. What I can't figure out is those times you just wander into a new area and pop a silver coin right away. Seems more often than not I'll grid the area and not find another silver coin. That has happened more than a few times and I always thought how in the heck can I wander at a new spot and pop a good coin right away but then gridding produces nothing else. It's happened to a friend and I more than a few times. We've started calling it a curse to pop a silver right away on a hunt. Seems like if they come slow then we end up getting more good finds for the day.
 
Critterhunter,I'm comfident that when I get back in that area silver will be found.I've been back logged with work last couple of days.Just picked a Quattro up gosh that detector is slow even compared to a Sovereign.
 
That's inspiring and informative. I'll give my beat to death old ranch gate another try, where I found silver first [1948 quarter] [with a gold scanner] and then a wheat [1948] with the GT [my first coin with my GT]. I found a silver coin, 1918 three pence in town the other day, but had grabbed the MXT instead of the GT. I'll be going back there with the GT. Found a pocketful [7 coins] dated 70's with the GT yesterday in one hole next to the pavement at a roadside park, where I had stopped for a short break and it was the first signal I got there. Here's a pic of my first GT coin with a piece of Alaska gold given to me that the GT will detect.
James
 
Those Quattros are slow. I had some brief field experience on one that a friend had bought. He didn't keep it long and I wasn't impressed. It's light years ahead of other detector makers so I don't want to bash it too much but it's not compared to other Minelabs. I'd rather have a GT, Explorer, or Etrac.

That's what people need to understand about the Sovereign. Recovery speed may be slow but that doesn't mean bad separation. Separation is determined by the coil field and it's separation is as good as it gets thanks to the great coils for it including the stock Tornado 10". Seems to separate better than the Explorer 10" for me and I know it pinpoints a heck of a lot better. It was a nightmare on my Explorers. I can also separate targets more easily with the 10" and even 15x12 double D coils than I could with say a Whites 9.5" concentric.

But the big difference on this "slow" machine compared to even faster ones is that the VDI is tied more directly to the audio. For that reason the VDI is "fast" can can ID targets well mixed in trash or at depth. Iron Mask On helps with that but I think the trick is the VDI is instantly calibrated by what the Sovereign is hearing. Explorer users pay attention to the audio and ignore the VDI because they are so out of phase with each other. They'll often hear the high tone from a coin but the VDI will lag behind and may ID any nearby trash or iron. You've got to time your sweep on the Explorer so that the VDI responds to the "good" target last so it has time to catch up and display it. Even when that's done the VDI on it is still far more jumpy and so less trustworthy for me.

James, can you sweep that 3 pence with your Sovereign and let me know what VDI # it gives you and which coil you were using. I want to compare it to my readings for further custom chart enhancements.
 
Forgot to ask. What does that gold nugget read as on your Sovereign and how is the sound? I'll guess it reads around 60 on the VDI. Anybody else care to make a guess before he tells us? I've never scanned a small piece of gold like that but I would figure it has to read real low. 60 might even be too high. If it reads 71 then I've got an odd "quirk" I've noticed on the GT. Many pieces of foil (like a balled up gum wrapper) will read right at either 71 (or was it 75 or 76?) and produce a distinct sick fuzzy sound that tells me it's foil. A gold ring reading that low sounds much better. I've also noticed that most foil balls despite size will read about 90 or lower so when I'm in a picnic area loaded with foil I'll crank the discrimination up to just kill up to about 90 or 95.
 
Love the key........ looks like a box key......hmmm

Keys open boxes, lockable boxes contain valuables - in the past with unsecure housing the box would be buried.....find the box.. jackpot....

Wishful thinking on my part I am sure........

Thanks for sharing your finds..........happy hunting......
 
Critterhunter,I agree the Sovereign is great for target separation even with the ten inch coil.The Quattro IMHO is just as deep as the Explorer but is more difficult to separate targets because of the slow recovery speed.I need to learn more about finding gold with the Sovereign which will require more work and dig those very low targets.I don't know what the readings are for gold nuggets with the Sovereign.I may make an effort start setting the discriminate to where the manual specs says the gold band starts which includes the foil range and dig all in these range for a couple of weeks.Gold prices $$$$$
 
James in Texas,its always worth another try.Some of my areas I've hunted 20 times and still have some good finds.Good Luck.
 
After scanning in over 100 gold rings and also reading a booklet where somebody did something similar, even the smallest of gold rings will usually start at around 75 on the VDI scale and go up from there. Most large gold rings end somewhere lower on the VDI than a zinc penny, like right above round tabs. There are of course exceptions to these rules but the vast majority will range from 75 to about 168 on the dial, with most of them being somewhere in the 100 to 150's range. At least I think that's what I remember from the chart I did. Anybody can dig up that old thread (Splitting Hairs On Ring VDI Numbers) to see how that stuff panned out.
 
Critter, sorry, I only have the old bar graph meter and only have the 10 inch Tornado coil, but the nugget reads between foil and nickle. When in the expanded mode, it tends to read in iron and will jump into the foil zone. It seems to detect the nugget better in disc [disc set to zero], iron mask on and I can get a good sound [without headphones] up to 2 inches with the nugget lying on top of ground [which measures 80 on the MXT]. I have another nugget, same type, about 2/3 the size which the GT can detect with a little difficulty. The 1918 King George 3 pence reads like a dime, all the way to the right with a loud, high tone in both modes of the meter. All this in auto sensitivity. When I can afford it, I'll get the Digisearch meter. As always, I welcome all the advice I can get.
James
 
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