TIPS NEEDED

[JOHNNY DELUXE]

Hi all,

The beaches here in South Florida (many anyways) are heavy on trash, 100's of beer tops,cans,tabs,etc... In the wet sand I can open up Iron Mask and am fine, but in the dry sand I have a real tough time trying to discriminatethe caps,pulltabs,etc...Theres just to many...I am worried about missing gold etc...but hate digging 100s of junk targets...Are there any tips that can help the trashy sand beach hunter

Regards
JD

 

[Jim Pa]

Not being smart but that's part of detecting.Dig them or hire someone to dig for you and hand you the goodies.

 

[Cody]

I have had very good luck using the learn function and smallest cursor to learn reject trash and still detect rings, coins, and other good items. This may work for you in those heavy trash area.

 

[GraveDiggerMax-VaBch-Va]

n/t

 

[PULLATAB]

haven't been around for a while {knee surgery}
you can get some of the pulltabs out, however, the most expensive rings are usually the thin bands with big rocks, these will hit almost on top of the pull tab range, if you want thick gold bands, and platinum and silver, then you can select most tabs out....but you might might miss the one ring that will pay for a detect many times over!!!!

 

[NealNoINIronBrigade]

n/t

 

[Buzzz (Southern Tier NY)]

n/t

 

[Arturo de Zorro]

and make a deal that they keeps all the silver rings and coins, kids like to silver stuff, but watch out sharp pointed drug paraphernalia, that is why on my once a year beach hunt I stay near the water because trash and thin aluminum deteriorates in saltwater. Also the 10" black minelab coil is not as water proof as they say, I had to replace one after using it in less than one foot of water at last years beach hunt but my partner had no problem with his 10" coil in the wet sand only. If you live near the beach hunt at low tide in the wet sand, with the price of gas and three hours from the gulf coast I won't be going soon.

 

[Philo_NY]

Here's how to eliminate most of the pull tops and retain those gold finds... If anyone do not know what I'm talking about, please e-mail me...

Now, this is what I did a few years ago... One, take all the gold you have available... go to learn on your Explorer I or II and program in as much gold that you have... all of it, rings, chains, bracelets, medallions, pendants, small rings, large rings, coins..all KtS 10, 14, 18, and 24 including Platinum. You need an all black screen to begin... all small gold you need to have a medium cursor, The large gold you can go with the small cursor.

It takes time and patients, and do remember to lower your sensitivity very low because you'll start picking up other metals or frequencies and you'll need to start all over again. So, you set the cursor to the needed size, and you press the accept button (The Check Blinks)and you should get a white box for the gold you have just programed, but remember to swing slowly and evenly... by going very slow make sure you receive a strong signal, now stop moving the coil away from the target and press the accept button again and pass the coil over the gold and you should receive a strong signal from that gold... Now get another piece of gold, pass the coil and see if you receive a signal, if you do, you don't need to program that particular piece of gold...keep swinging the coil slowly on all your gold and the ones that are not producing a strong signal, program that piece of gold into the Explorer...Hint...on chains... bunch it up, lay them out straight and make sure you receive a strong signal, now chains are an exception because very thin chains may not be seen by the Explorer, so you may need to bring up the Sens... till you receive a signal.... The only bad thing is that you'll have to make sure you are away from any other metal, power lines, air ports, passing planes, or taxis. They will produce frequencies and cause your Explorer to open spots on the screen you don't want to open... Take your time.

I tried programing the gold with the air test, but it's not the same....with the air test, you'll have to make sure that only the gold you are waving in front of the coil is giving off the signal. So go do it at the beach, on the sand or even bury the gold at one or two inches so you get the same response as if you are hunting, and PLEASE, PLEASE...make sure there are no metals in sight in the ground, or sand for an area of at least 5 feet to get the proper programing.

Now, once you have gotten every gold item to ring when you swing the coil over it....save the program by hitting that little box that's opening and closing, because if you reset your Explorer you are going to lose the program.... you will also lose it if you send in your Explorer for repairs and her board is replaced or cleared. Be sure you ask people you know if you can test to see if you are picking up their gold, if not try to program that piece into your program with the procedure in the pass paragraphs...

Now remember that you are discriminating a lot of other metals, say 90% and you'll need to find the right sensitivity level and coil speed to your swing when you hunt.

When you get those options in order...save them also... This is not a fool proof method, because you are still going to pick up pull tops, but get this... there are over 250 variations of pull tops out there, this will eliminate 60 to 70% of them, same goes with the foil, and other foil like metals...you will by digging foil.... but, I guarantee you will dig less trash in a trashy beach and you will bring more gold home... I would post a picture which I had posted years ago, but because people became so objected and began making remarks I did not deserve, I will refrain from posting that picture, but some hunters here know me and know the kind of finds I dig in the summer months...well good hunting and e-mail me if you need something cleared up... Well here a little teaser...

Yours, the GoldMagnet

Philo_NY

 

[Cody]

Yes, indeed you are correct in how to take advantage of the 1024 discrimination notches available to the user on the Explorer. We can eliminate most of the pulltabs and still detect gold including gold rings. I have tested hundreds of items and have the same experience as you in rejecting the pulltabs and still detecting the the rings. Silver is really not a problem but we can discriminate between pulltabs, tails, and the other targets of this type and gold rings and other gold jewelry. The key is the size of, number of pixels, used to accept and reject targets.

Standard thinking is we cannot so it is not that easy to talk a user into the idea we can do as you describe and save ourselves a lot of digging. We cannot only if we use the detector to reject and accept using too many clusters of digital reading which is a medium or large cursor or square in the Learn mode. If we go by pixels then we can indeed eliminate a great majority of the pulltabs, tails and tabs and still find the gold. The skewing reading by soil minerals is why it is necessary to fine tune the program in actual field conditions. I set mine up on the bench then used field conditions and also bury targets, gold, in plastic bags to fine tune the program. Most gold targets can be identified from pulltabs by using your procedures and one similar.

 

[Cody]

User may not have a lot of gold so there is another way to do this. I guess it could be thought of as a negative to a positivity. Go to learn and rejected trash targets with the smaller cursor, box pixel which will leave gold that is not an exact match to the rejected trash to still be detected. It is fairly easy to learn trash to be rejected with a single dot pixel, store this in a memory location, then add select this to kill most pulltabs and still get gold rings from veyr thin to the heavy ones. There are several different ways to do this but the idea is to reject with a tight single pixel so when we sweep the coil we hear a hit then can zero in and sweep the coil right over the center of the target and if it matches our tight pattern then it is rejected. There is enough difference in most pulltabs and rings to reject pulltabs and still get the rings. I will also fine tune by being sure all silver coins and rings both silver and gold are still detected. As you indicate as near as I can tell this will knock out about 75% of the trash pulltabs.

 

[wanted]

Loved the information. I just got into this hobby just a few days ago as my wife purchased a Bounty Hunter Cami LS. The instructions were very brief and I would imagine that there is a lot of guessing work for me to do. Today I did manage to find a quarter, nickle, and a few Penny's. Just enough to keep me excited. If you have any knowledge on the Bounty Hunter please let me know.
Thanks,
Dan Webb
Wanted441@yahoo.com

 

[cachenut]

use the small cursor and discrim out the junk targets as in reject this target. Chances are some gold will get thru then if there is any. If not then you have to dig it all anyway to find the gold coins that looks just like the pop top.

If gold coins are anything like regular silver coins the explorer practically shouts when it find ones.

Joe.