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Tip: How To Dig Deep Coins With The GTI 1500/GTI2500

John-Edmonton

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I did a little experiment a couple of years ago in my test garden. I used the 9.5 imaging coil/GTI 1500, with the sensitivity set at max in zero discrimination. In my test garden I have many coins at various depths as shown
below.

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Now the six inch coin sometimes gave a belltone and or a quarter bouncing around occasionally. Well, I would have dug it anyways. I never turn down a signal that sometimes reads as a good target at 6 inches. 6 inches = OLD. Now, I tried the 8 inch and the 10 inch coin too. No belltone, no bouncing around for even a hint of a possible target. But.....there were a couple of constant variables. All the tones gave that low iron tone. The cursor sometimes moved around, say from iron to bottle cap. However, and here is the kicker, the depth always remained the same. It didn't matter if my coil coil crossed the target at different angles, the depth still remained the same.

Well, thinking I was on to something, I headed to a school built in the early 1900 and tried this scenario in the real world. I was at a goal post, and about 5 feet off to the outside of the metal post, I got one of those low tones, in the iron range. I tried running the coil over it from several directions, and sure enough the depth remained the same. It kept reading at 8 inches. I also want to mention, that metal detecting has been popular in Edmonton since the 70's, and this school has been hit hard. One only has to research schools at the library to find out where the old schools are. But, I dug down carefully and at about 8 inches was a nice 1918 silver quarter. Not in the greatest conditions, but it was silver, and deep. I tried the same scenario again, and sure enough, I got another low tone in the iron range, but a constant reading of about 8 inches also. Well, I dug up the target, and sure enough, a coin popped out again. This was an older Wheat Cent.

So, I normally would have past these signals up as junk because of that low tone. But, a constant depth reading of a deep signal requires further investigation. So, does a junk reading for a coin at 8 inches make a detector a poor machine? Nothing could be further from the truth.

I have always said, you are not efficient until you tell the machine what it has under the coil, not the other way around. Sure, if you like to dig coins in the top 6 inches (I do) and rely on the ID, Belltone, Imaging and Depth to get coins, you will get a good probability ratio using the Garrett 1500 for coins. But, you can push the the limits of the GTI 1500/GTI 2500 in the standard mode to get even deeper targets. But, it involves a lot of extra concentration, skills and even some deep digging....

Are you up to the task?
 
So are you saying I should dig the constant depth-reading iron target regardless of target size? After 6 inches the size reading wouldn't matter as much since it's not very reliable at that depth,right?

Peter
 
That's right, but you can still (roughly) size a large target by getting a signal over a large area or still getting a signal with the coil another several inches off the ground. This would show you that the object is quite large.
 
So John,

I have a few places in mind where I would like to test your theory. I am excited because I can't really find many coins over 6 inches there. When you say that it gives you the same depth of 8 inches...what is the size it gives you? Or does it not give any size at all. B-sized target usually only appears to me on coins that are 6 inches or shallower. I may have gotten one or two to say 7 inches, but never more than that. Also I have noticed that the deeper coins that I have dug. Most that are 6-7 inches, don't give me any size at all. Sometimes my pinpoint meter only goes a 1/3 or maybe 1/2 the area up. You might want to try that as well if u haven't. Sometimes I find that if I dig out the plug on the deeper targets it sounds even better and usually you can pinpoint a bit better.

Very interesting on how it registers a lower tone for deep coins though. Thanks for sharing.

Chuck
 
John,
In addition to Deerhunter's size ID question on the "deep iron coins", what sensitivity level and threshold do you usually run on the 1500? I picked up a used 1500 and lowered the threshold level 'til the constant noise stopped (about 3) and have been running the sensitivity at about 7.

With some open air testing, I gain a couple of inches of distance cranking up the sensitivity to 7 (vs.5). At some point I'm sure I will start getting a lot of false signalling during practical use.

Thanks for your help.
Mike
 
Stingray,

I usually hunt with the threshold at 3 as well.

Normally, I hunt with the sensitivity at 8 or 9. A few times I have had to run it at 6/7, but I usually hunt with it at 8 or 9.
 
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