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blowfly1967

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with the vaquero i can turn the threshold all the way up after i have ground balanced to super tune it.thereby making it more sensitive however i was reading about another brands detectors that actually turn their thresholds down til there barely audible,so that they don't miss faint signals once gb'ed.they don't super tune theirs.i have never super tune mine and i feel i'm not missing anything.my question is whose right?bye for now ,blowfly,hh.
 
Hi

Don't know a lot about supertuning, but it seems to me that once the threshold is super tuned, the hunt must proceed in the disc mode, so the threshold isn't a problem.

That of the faint hum threshold tone is valid for non motion or PI detectors or a true all metal non motion search.

Some motion detectors offer threshold too, but again it has to remain barely audible, and will sometime get you finds in the fringe detection area that wouldn' signal had the detector been set on silent search.

HH

Nick
 
As I understand it, turning the threshold up for super tuning takes away any practical functionality in all metal or all metal pinpoint mode as the threshold tone is already at maximum so any slight change cannot be heard. I've tried it on several of my machines and didn't feel it offered enough more to be worth the trouble at least in most of my hunting. JMHO
HH
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Hi blowfly, Happy Boxing Day! Supertuning....hmmm. Threshold's purpose is to give the machine a reference point for tuning the detector to balance it to the ground (or something like that). If you have a machine which can hunt in all-metal, and you are using it to hunt in all metal, then it is important to have the threshold control delicately set so that you haven't tuned out very faint signals (too soft), or that the threshold sound does not mask very faint signals (too loud). However, once you have ground balanced your machine (if it has manual ground balance, like the Vaquero, unlike the Cibola) if you decide to use the machine in Discrimination mode, you can adjust the threshold (either way), but such adjustment will not always be in your best interest. Thurning the threshold right up (supertuning) can give you better responses to targets, but it you are hunting in mineralised ground and haven't balanced your detector perfectly, or the mineralisation has changed slightly since you last balanced the detector, then I imagine the supertuning could lead to undesired results (such as false signals). With a machine like theCibola which has pre-set ground balance, I think that supertuning could be a bit of a hit & miss affair; with a machine like the Vaquero (or in my case, Eldorado Umax) I think it is more important to have the machine properly groundbalanced and the threshold set at a faint hum (ie. high enough not to miss those faint signals) than to worry about supertuning a possibly giving the detector a setting which could possibly make it react to the ground adversely. It's good to try new things, so you could give it a go and so how the Vaquero performs, but I dont see the need to use it with my Eldorado. All the best, Sapper.
 
Super tuning can get more depth in discriminate mode. If turned way up (super tuned to maximum), the discrimination of large iron seems to fade with the Tesoros.

For the most part I do not super tune, although I did super tune to the max when I first got my Cibola. Once I stopped super tuning, I started getting better results, although there are places and times to super tune.

Link is to another discussion related to this topic.
http://www.findmall.com/read.php?17,904792,904942#msg-904942
 
thanks sapper,for the info.i wasn't worried about it.i have one of the other brand detectors that you set up that way.many times i have read of others on the many other forums out there,how they hunt with the sensitvity maxed out and super tuned.i say good luck to them,if they find anything.i don't and i still find heaps of nice things.,if my boxing day gets any merrier,i won't be able to scratch myself shortly,see youse blowfly
 
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