This Video is an example of why I really like Tesoro detectors

[Bill G]

Well there is a very valid point to be made here. I have liked a lot of the TID detectors that I have owned over the years (currently a Garrett AT Pro). But over the years of hunting I have found the point in this video quite often to be true when a nail or another piece of trash of some type is in the hole with a coin playing havoc on a TID detector. As far as target ID goes thumbing the knob on a Tesoro detector works darn well after learning how to do it correctly.

Tesoro detectors in general do well with iron nails and small bits of iron trash.

Just my 2 cent's

Take Care All,
Bill G

http://youtu.be/xJmPqE4hjWc

 

[tabman]

I learned that a good while back. Detectors with ID screens work great in air test, but not so well out in the field where good targets are mixed with trash.

Being at a good location and going really slow with a Tesoro will produce great results.

tabman

 

[Rainyday101]

I agree with you Bill. Most people want a detector that will tell them exactly whats in the ground, how deep it is, etc. No thinking, just look at the display and do what it tells you. Of course we know that it doesn't always work that way. The time spent learning a Tesoro is time well spent.

 

[BarberBill]

Good demonstration on why people miss good targets because of the TID. I've written some time ago that hunting in all metal (if you have the patience) is good because regardless of how the target(s) may be masked, you'll still get a signal. You may intitially be digging a piece of trash, but you'll still also retrieve the good target. The thing to remember is that all any detector does is detect the presence of metal - from there on it's a machine's best guess if you rely on TID.
BB

 

[Southwind]

Most people want a detector that will tell them exactly whats in the ground, how deep it is, etc.

Yup that's me! I dug trash for 30 years and I'm done with that.

Truth is I don't know anyone who uses only the display to determine to recover or not. Even as selective as I am if a target sounds right I only look at the display as added confirmation as to what I'm thinking it is.

The trick to the iron vs coin video is nothing more than having the discrimination set properly.Here is a video I did a few years ago with the DFX

[video]http://youtu.be/hVzW5B5mMr0[/video]

Tesoro still makes a killer detector!

 

[Bill G]

Most people want a detector that will tell them exactly whats in the ground, how deep it is, etc.

Yup that's me! I dug trash for 30 years and I'm done with that.

Truth is I don't know anyone who uses only the display to determine to recover or not. Even as selective as I am if a target sounds right I only look at the display as added confirmation as to what I'm thinking it is.

The trick to the iron vs coin video is nothing more than having the discrimination set properly.Here is a video I did a few years ago with the DFX

[video]http://youtu.be/hVzW5B5mMr0[/video]

Tesoro still makes a killer detector!

I agree and do the same as you when using a good TID detector. I think the over all point the guy was making in the video is folks rely on VDI numbers or icons to much. Even with the disk turned down and the target coming in good and still having two or multiple items in the hole like in the video the VDI numbers may still be off on the target ID. So solely relying on the VDI numbers or icons like a lot do you would still miss the good target.

New folks to hunting with modern detectors may use only the VDI numbers or icons as gospel. I ran into an old man at the park that was doing just that the other day. After we talked a little he thought I was crazy because I mentioned when he ask what my screen was reading on my AT Pro. It read a nickel on the VDI and I mentioned it may be a pull tab if it's the right size or conductivity. Then he said I thought these things were suppose to tell you what was in the ground that is why he bought one with a screen. New folks to detecting quite often believing the commercials these manufactures put out glorifying the screen and saying or leading a person to believe it tells you what it is exactly in the ground before you dig.

Happy Hunting,
Bill G

 

[Rainyday101]

Most people want a detector that will tell them exactly whats in the ground, how deep it is, etc.

Yup that's me! I dug trash for 30 years and I'm done with that.

Truth is I don't know anyone who uses only the display to determine to recover or not. Even as selective as I am if a target sounds right I only look at the display as added confirmation as to what I'm thinking it is.

The trick to the iron vs coin video is nothing more than having the discrimination set properly.Here is a video I did a few years ago with the DFX

[video]http://youtu.be/hVzW5B5mMr0[/video]

Tesoro still makes a killer detector!

With the amount of experience you have, I have no doubt the VDI is an aid to help you make a final digging decision. As Bill G stated, most new people believe the VDI and pay little attention to tones. My friend has an AT Pro and after 2 years he is finally starting to pay more attention to the tones and less to the VDI. He is a lot more successful this year than the previous years. He spent a little over an hour running my Tejon and that really helped him understand how tone audio works. Despite the fact that I know better, when I ran his AT Pro, I was constantly watching the VDI.

 

[Mega]

I have been using a Tesoro beep and dig machine in the UK on our roman and saxon sites,its based on the old Bandido design as far as i can gather but goes under the UK Laser B3 brand name,these have been slightly tweaked for our trashy sites and ground condition.

Must admit not many TID or expensive machine can touch these Tesoro's machine in iron infested sites as the discrimination of these machines are in my opinion the very best going,it wont in theory beep unless its a good target,of course if its ultra large iron or junk it will trip the audio but with a broken tone so you can have a very good idea that it will be iron or trash.

Audio on any detector is going to be much more reliable than TID and also i have found that on some machine's the TID is totally useless after a certain depth,but the audio albeit may be feint will still give you a much more reliable indication of what the target is like.

Never use icons,as most icons are US based with cents and dimes etc so a total waste of time over here hence this is why i never have the icons switch on,i only then just as a very last resort look at the meter to make a decision too dig.This is why i think its so important to have a decent set of headphones to hear everything the machine is telling you audio wise,i am almost certain that if you are in a noisy enviroment say in a park and dont use headphones you will miss those feint deep signals,If you rely on the meter 100% of the time and the target is deep and you dont wear headphones the meter wont detect that target and you will also miss the feint audio tones as well.

Tesoro detectors may not be the sexiest machines too look at,but its the good finds in my mind that go into your finds bag that is the main indicator in how good these machines really are,on roman sites or other junky sites my finds bag always has decent finds in it as a result of that superb discrimination in my mind it is the best in the world and that is a very bold statement.

 

[Stix]

I was a VID type person and dug mainly from the od numbers. I switched to tesoro and have dug more trash but alot more jewelery and good items. I try not to go by numbers but it they make it to easy not to dig trash.... even though I dug alot of trash with a VID. Anyone who says they do not with a VID is full of it.

 

[atomicscott]

Most people want a detector that will tell them exactly whats in the ground, how deep it is, etc.

Yup that's me! I dug trash for 30 years and I'm done with that.

Truth is I don't know anyone who uses only the display to determine to recover or not. Even as selective as I am if a target sounds right I only look at the display as added confirmation as to what I'm thinking it is.

The trick to the iron vs coin video is nothing more than having the discrimination set properly.Here is a video I did a few years ago with the DFX

[video]http://youtu.be/hVzW5B5mMr0[/video]

Tesoro still makes a killer detector!

True, anybody who has any detecting experience knows that the display is just extra info to help determine what the target MAY be. Nobody (who has successful hunts at least) uses the display exclusively to decide whether to dig or not.