this 10x12 suprized me

[GunnarMN]

I was making a video , with the outlaw, and was going to show how it coul deal with 3" of magnetic gravle and black sand , and befor i tested it i said it will not get thru this in Disq mode as I have tested 6 detectors and non had done it but the bliss i then swept it and it hit the tab thru it in disq, and it was at foil on the dial I could not see how this was possible but it did , the DD coil handles minerals very well , it also got thru some of the worst basalts i have but in all metal threshold and the no motion was like a P.I machine Video in the making

 

[SpiritRelic]

Great job Gunnar.Can't wait for the video.This Outlaw is tricky.I think Tesoro tweeked this thing.I got to get out and hunt with mine.Every little tip &trick you find out will be a big help. :-D

 

[Monte]

that can help a little, it is simply the size of the coil that allows you get some performance in a test, depending upon the size of the container that you might use with the 3" your describe as "magnetic gravel and black sand."

If you are trying to get a true-case evaluation of a detector and coil I suggest the sample material either be a typically encountered 'object,' such as a dirt clod or rock, such as my "Homestead Rock" from a Central Oregon homestead site where they was a decayed structure and some building walls and chimney rocks were scattered about. Those rocks are usually flattish, so as to stack easier, and not round, and my Homestead Rock measures about 6" wide X 9" long X 2" thick at the center.

When I want to compare detector/coil performance for challenging round, I never like to use a smaller plastic or wooden or cardboard box with sample dirt. Instead, the soil make-up is either in its natural state covering a natural area of ground, or a mixture I put in a larger-size plastic tub that is at least 2'X3', and the test sample target is located under the direct center, not close to an edge. Then, when the sample soil is covering a larger-size area, it eliminates the cheater-performance of a larger-size and/or DD coil.

Just some thoughts, not knowing what you had in mind for a sample soil container. As a rule, when dealing with an absolute natural condition of really bad ground, it eliminates possible errors and requires that the make and model detector, when used in the motion-based Discriminate mode be adjustable to a TRUE All Metal accept or Zero Disc. setting. That would be models such as the Compadres, Eldorado

 

[GunnarMN]

Well my GT with its DD coil 10" could not do it in disq. nor the musky in disq, nor the gold bug with its 5" DD I totaly expected the outlaw not to get it and it did but it will not do it with any concentrics the bliss can, but the outlaw had way more discrimination going on . I would say if you have basalt gravles at least the outlaw will find targets thru it in all metal like I say its eather a P.I or dont detect yes you will dig all but just think what is hid in all that nasty basalt that no disq detector can get

 

[LilloEsquilo]

I'd love to see you set up the test you suggest Monte and share the results with us.

 

[Monte]

n/t