thanks for the input
I like the silver, don't love it yet but i like it maybe love will come with time. I'm use to using an XLT a tid machine but a Very good detector that gives a lot of info. But I like the pinpointing part as my favorite feature pull the trigger and you get location and depth, It's pretty accurate.
The silver I get better at pinpointing every time I use it. I thought about going to a Cibola for the pinpoint feature but I keep telling my self give it time.
The F4 I feel I'm missing targets, the DD I'm still learning to pinpoint but the 8 inch coil gives funny depths sometimes. so I'm not real confident with it. More confident with the silver.
I bought the silver and the F4 more so for competition hunts for me and the wife we both use XLTs as our main machines.
maybe with more hunting I'll be more confident with the F4