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thinking of getta fisher CZ

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fg121798

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Hi
I had the Fisher F5 and a ton of other detectors including minelabs Xterra 70 plus the 705 and the safari and zs-2 pro AND FINALLY THE se PRO.
U was thinking of getting the CZ but which one-I heard a lot about the CZ 5 and 6.
Whch CZ model is at the top.there seems to be some for sale and the price is always reasonable.I'm ready to get one right now as I just shipped out my last detector.
thanks
David F
 
Most all of the CZ's perform well providing they are in good order. I favor the setup on the CZ7aPro, and CZ70 best as far a pole confiuration and hip mountability, head phones batteries etc. They are well thought out and user friendly. The CZ5, and CZ3D are both excellent as well, but are not as well balanced while hunting. The CZ6 did not have a speaker, so was thought to be better on the beach, but the speakers on all the newer fishers are silicon sealed and water resistant speakers, and most likely would handle a minor water hit as well as the 6, and I would go for a fresher machine age wise. They are great machines, I own seven detectors now and have 10 others, and my 7aPro is one of my all time favorites, I use it more than any other.
 
ok so you think the CZ 7 is near the top thanks
I heard about the 70 also. I will do a little more research
.david
 
Just so you know, the CZ6 is the only CZ where you cannot use coils from the other CZ's ( like the CZ70, 7A, 5, 6a or current 3D). It had a different coil cable adapter.

If you can find a nice CZ70, CZ5 or CZ6a, go for it. The CZ7's take AA batteries, the others take 9V. The 7A can run a long time. If you are into older coin hunting and old sites are what you predominately hunt, then the CZ3D may be the ticket. This machine brings a lot of the older nickles, Indian Head pennies and some gold into the high tone category where as these targets may hit as mid tone on other CZ's.

JC
 
Did not say CZ7, wrote CZ7APro. 7aPro, and 70 are the same configuration, only difference is 3 tones and 4 tones, so no big deal there.
 
I've sold off all almost all my other detectors and now use the CZ6A. I like the fact that it does not have a speaker. I do a lot of beach hunting and speaker grills have a tendency to trap sand. I also like the knobs only and the analog meter instead of pushpads with a digital meter but that is just a personal preference.

HH Harvdog
 
Analog or digital all models perform well...Come up on classifieds now and then or always a new CZ3D with 5 year warranty or a old stock model that bought bought new which would have the warranty if you could find one...

Some like analog which is a tad faster and has the S type handle..

Some like the digital with a superior notch system, night light and a pistol grip handle...
 
not too often you see one that is for sale. They do go deep and will hold their own against many of the new models on the market today. Kelley (Texas) :)
 
I'm impressed so far with my CZ5. 5" coil is very impressive. :thumbup:

Good luck
 
As the CZ6A doesn't have an outside speaker I like the tone better and the weather resistant box is a plus also...Have heard of some super tuned CZ5's coming out of the old Fisher but all in all the CZ6A just went a little deeper and of course any of the models may be a tad hot or cold but all go deep and yep used every model CZ ever made some of them twice...
 
Hi Dan-Pa, How about the CZ7A, how do you set it up to get deep old coins, and not all that trash? I haven,t had my CZ very long, everyone said they are the best at getting deep coins, but i have had mine in the same park that i have pulled Wheat's, IHs, Bluffs,War nickles, but not with the CZ. I have got some deep signals and dig 8"or 10" and not find anything. What is this? I use my MXT and don,t do this. Am i doing something wrong? Need Help Bad Thanks Dean
 
and it will find some deep coins. I might also make mention that many good coins are not deep, but are being masked by trash items. Kelley (Texas) :)
 
CZ7A is the rod mount only version of the digital CZ and with the variable notch would accept Nickles, Zinc and high coin facet with probably a sens. of 6 or perhaps 8 if you can get away with a stable unit. Practice the bobbing method of ground balancing in your back yard as it equates to more depth and stability properly done.
An Experienced CZ user will basically bob several times and start hunting as its easy once you get the hang of it.
Unfortunately a CZ likes rusty nails which pinpoint to the side of the hole so you dig and find nothing. Might Google Mikes CZ page as it has a wealth of CZ info. and will help you to recognize those blasted rusty nails that seem to be everywhere and once you get the hang of it will dig very little rusty nails.
If you have an experienced CZ user in your club a couple of trips will ease the learning period.
 
OK dan you convinced me.
I just told that guy I would take his CZ-3D with the invader FZ-1 probe.
I thought $500 might be a little high but he just bought it new in March but has not used it.
I tried tracking him but could not find much about him but he has PayPal, a verified address and a phone number so I feel halfway safe about sending the money through paypal.
I don't know much about the probe and if I don't care for it I will most likely get the garrett propointer.
David
 
Forget it PayPal says the address is not verified.
he has no references and nobody to vouch for him.
he is a new member but has no dealings with anybody in either forum
I asked him about paypal and now says he has to get verified.
Forget it I would be stupid to send him money.
so I guess I will keep looking.
David
 
1 - Make sure you learn how to ground balance using the bobbing method. Once you ground balance in auto-tune and switch to discrimination mode, make sure you lower the sensitivity level. This is important. Remember you will be ground balancing in auto-tune mode with sensitivity at 9 or 10. You have to lower it when switching to discriminate mode or you will get lots of falsing.

2 - Don't run sensitivity past 3 or 4 to start. The CZ can go deep at low sensitivity levels, and you don't have to overdrive it. Once you get into the sensitivity levels of 5 and higher, there is much more chances of falsing...plus, the depth does not change much if at all, while the footprint of the coil is increased and it's much more sensitive. When you go from sensitivity level 2 to 4, it' does not double the depth...similar from 3 to 6 does not double depth you are getting at level 3...it only makes the coil much more 'hot'. Obviously level 1 is not as deep as level 2, etc, but my point is, at a certain level ( depending on the machine) the depth stabilizes and any level higher is now making the coil a wider foot print and more suspect to target masking.

This is in discrimination mode. In auto-tune/all metal, you have to run sensitivity high since it is related to the 'threshold' sound in auto-tune and you want to hear the slight 'threshold' hum/warble in auto-tune and you can only hear that when the sensitivity is turned up to 9 or 10. I put 'threshold' in quotes since the CZ is a silent search machine and not threshold based per se.

3 - If running in discrimination mode, run at level 0 and listen to ALL targets. You can tell and hear iron much better when you actually hear it versus discriminating it out. At level 1 and higher, the low tone of iron is disabled, so if you get the low tone/high tone iron bounces, you will only hear the high tone at those levels and this may fool you into thinking its a good target. Once you learn the machine, you can cherry pick, and there are going to be times when there are tons of small iron targets, ie. nails, and you want to discriminate them out. BUT...you have a chance to miss things. I have learned over the years to tough it out and run 0 discrimination no matter where I am. It helps a ton in not chasing those false signals and digging deep nails thinking they are deep coins. There will be a point where you will be able to tell a high tone coin hit from a high tone false iron hit. Point is...LISTEN TO ALL TARGETS.

4 - Sweep slow and low.

5 - HAVE FUN. Its a great detector.

JC
 
Great reminder post, I forgot about keeping the disc in 0, and why. I've been running it in 1.
HH! Aaron
 
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