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Thinking about switching from my Explorer SE to a GTI 2500

JASONSPAZ1

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I will cut right to the chase. I have a GTA-X1250 and recently purchased an Explorer SE. While using the Explorer I found that I missed the last mode setting of my GTA to quickly switch modes. The Explorer isn't as easy to switch back and forth. The Explorer Buttons are small and difficult to adjust with gloves on with the addition of the rain/dust cover. I never had this problem with my GTA. The pinpoint on the Explorer is OK but not as good as the GTA-1250. I am so confused here and I need some advice. I spent allot of $$ on the Explorer and I know I can get allot of $$ for it if I decide to sell it. But I think at heart the Garrett is what I want. I am just afraid that the GTI would be useless at the beach? And I am also afraid that if I buy a gti 2500 in place of my explorer SE that Garrett will end up discontinuing the 2500 soon with a new model.
What do I do????
 
Ok, here goes. Hope I don't offend anyone here, just telling my story. My first Garrett was a GTA1000 back in 1997. I used it a LOT until I finally thought I should get serious and bought a GTI2500. After about a year of using it, with my wife using my old 1000, she decided to upgrade to a 2500 also (since I was consistently finding more than her). We were both happily using our 2500's for a couple of years, finding more and more stuff as our research took us to better ground.

Fast forward to earlier this year when, after reading this, and other, findmall forums, I started noticing I really enjoyed looking at the finds the guys using the Explorers were posting. There seemed to be more old stuff and generally more finds on that forum. I'm not implying that Minelabs find more than Garretts. It just started to really get my interest up. I sold a couple of other older detectors that were collecting dust and ponied up for a new Explorer II. There was quite a bit of a learning curve, since it is a totally different machine to any of the Garretts I have used. I really missed the Imaging feature, as the Exp doesn't really have a "target size" gauge. It's something that comes with practice using pinpoint. I dug a lot of trash that first month or two and was becoming quite frustrated with it. My wife was suddenly finding a lot more than me on every outing (it used to be the other way around)! I would occasionally dust off the old 2500 just so I could find something and feel better about myself. But after reading as much as I could about the Explorer, I knew persistence and practice would eventually pay off. I started finding more and learning the different sounds made by different targets.

Since my wife still uses her 2500, we often compare signals (before digging the target) and if she has a weak signal she is unsure of, she'll ask me to see what I think, and vice versa. I have learned that in some circumstances the 2500 is superior, but in general the Explorer will find items the 2500 has problems with. While the majority of items we dig are in the first 6"-8", the difference between the two is hardly noticeable. What I HAVE found, is that since using the Explorer, I have dug many more targets at the 10"-12" range and found some nice old coins I would most likely have walked over with the 2500.

Was it worth the extra money for the new machine? Maybe? I dunno. I like it, but I have nothing bad to say about the Garrett machines (I have owned and used: Infinium, Ace-250, GTA1000, GTAX1000, and GTI 2500). Their turn-on-and-go ease of use is hard to beat. The imaging of the 2500 (and 1500) is a great feature I wish the Explorer had. I like the rechargeable battery pack of the Explorer, even more each time my wife has to buy batteries for hers.

I wouldn't worry too much about them coming out with a new model just after you've bought one. There will always be another "new model" coming out, no matter what you buy or when. About hunting on the beach, We live about 10 minutes from the beach and hunt there often. The Garrett doesn't seem to be at any disadvantage at all at the beach (esp. with "salt elimination"), other than maybe depth capability, which I won't get into. Once again, it's 90% user, 10% machine.

My opinion to your original question? Keep the Explorer SE and learn it. Keep the Garrett 1250 as a backup or extra machine. It's a great coin shooter, and you won't be at a big disadvantage using it vs. a GTI2500. Bottom line is, become intimately familiar with whatever machine you decide to use and you will find more than the average "once-in-a-while" hunter, no matter what machines are being used.

I hope that wasn't too confusing. Just my view.
Whatever you decide, Happy Hunting!

Cheers,
Toby
 
Good post, Toby! I have never used an explorer. But as a geologist who has used a lot of analytical and geophysical equipment, and as a guy who has tested and compared three very different detectors, I know that what you say is true. Heck, Jason may find that the 2500 simply suits his personality better. But I would use the Explorer for a good 6 months before giving up on it. Get to know your machine and you'll get the most out of it.
 
..........relationships. Very quickly you will realize it just won't work or if it will...dont't force it. When I get a new detector I can usually tell if I'm going to keep it with ----one month!! Trade off that Explorer SE while it still has high resale value.......follow your heart. If it's a Garrett you want pick one and go for it.
 
You were doing so well with the 1250 and I enjoyed your posts, especially about the relic hunter in Maine who uses a 1250 exclusivley. I bought one and am having a ball that I may get another for backup. I think with patience you can find anything with a 1250 that any other detector can. Alot of people don't want a sizing feature and stick with the 1250.
If I was you I'd stick with what has worked for you and when the time is right for a change you won't have to ask anyone for help deciding it'll be a natural progression. Mike T
 
As I always tell folks, there is no such thing as the "best" machine, only the one that is best for you. What may be great for someone else can prove to be absolutely lousy for you. Go with what you feel. That's from 43 years behind a beeper.

Bill
 
Toby, thanks for the reply, your advice was great. And Mike, I am glad you enjoyed my previous post with the GTA 1250. I would never get rid of that 1250, It is great! I got the Explorer SE, because I knew I wanted to have two detectors.
But like I said I am wondering why I didn't get a GTI 2500, instead of the Explorer. I think I will hold on to the Explorer SE, for a while and see how it will go.
But in my two detector lineup I know one has to be a Garrett.
Thanks
HH
Jason
 
Get the 2500. I've got a brand new 3 yr. old MXT. Every time out I pick up the Garrett and never even think about the Whites. The 2500 is a silver finding machine!
 
With the 24 notch system on both the 1350 and the 2500, do the Aussie $1 and $2 coins show up on a single notch or do they bounce between 2 like the do on the Ace? Also, is there any separation between these coins and screw caps, or are they just too similar to be separated?
Mick Evans.
 
Mick,
From my experience with the 2500, the $1 & $2 coins will show up as either a 7 or 7.5. Most of the time, a $1 will ring in as a 7.5, but will also occasionally ring as 7, and likewise, a $2 will usually show up as 7, but can sometimes be a 7.5.

Hope this helps,

Cheers
Toby
 
Thanks Toby. It sounds like they are about the same as the Ace.
You're a lucky fellow to have your offsider as keen in the hobby as you.
Happy hunting.
Mick Evans.:twodetecting::ausflag:
 
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