Things I've already learned about my Vaquero already

[MarkCZ]

It really LOVES my Pro-Pointer, I don't have to worry about losing it. With the pointer turned off and the Vaquero in disc mode it will still hit solid on the pointer out to like two feet (For Real)
Anybody else notice that?

Now, I know that that doesn't mean ist running that deep in the ground, but it does mean that in the air the detection field is out a long ways from the coil.

Okay, I got two short sets in my yard today with the detector.
In the side yard I dug a few pieces of junk to start to get the feel of it. What I found out was the " All Metal Mode" is the most difficult to grasp. (figure out what's its doing)

In my front yard I have several coin gardens,
3" nickel, dime, quarter.
6" nickel, dime, quarter,
8" Half dollar, Indian Head penny, and a Large cent,

Then I have extra nickels,
4" 5" 6" and 7" (the 6" and 7" are pretty recent plants)

The reason for the 8" garden is because our local city park has been estimated for the oldest coins to be near 8"

So, as muddy as my yard is right now I was able to wonder around a bit testing the "V" results,
3" PASSED
6" PASSED (it did better on the 8")
8" PASSED (I think it did better here because the garden is over two years old) (here I did super tune it and it did bring the coins in much better, more than enough to tell the difference)
4" nickel, PASSED
5" nickel, PASSED
6" nickel, PASSED

its was trying to hit on the recently planted 7" nickels (one buffalo and one older Jefferson)

So, for me the depth is good.
But, for now I don't have a plan for this deep searching, I wanted it so I could shallow search for jewelry. (the Tesoro's are legendary for being hot on gold) so for my plans for this detector if it hits good at 8" then I don't have to super tune it to hit SOILD @ the 4" range.

Mark

 

[BillF]

Mark, that baby will go deep. You may not want to use anything else. I also have noticed mine picking up a metal fence post from 2 1/2 to 3 ft away. That was with 5.75 DD. I once said how much I loved the small coil and disliked the 9x8, but I have been forcing myself to use it and I like it.
Hope find a ton of stuff.

 

[WV62]

I am just the opposite with my coils, I have tried the 5.75" concentric, but for some reason I feel a lot better with the 9x8. But for my brother Mark and the way it sounds like he is going to hunt this machine, the little 5.75 may be the way to go. I was also thinking that he may want to consider a 5x10 wide scan, that should give all the depth needed and some real good ground coverage.

Even if it is a little detector I you will like it.

Brother Ron

 

[MarkCZ]

What are the advantages and disadvantages or the differences between the wide scan coil and the concentric coils?
Seems the concentric's are more sought after?

I still can't get over how small these detectors are.


Mark

 

[BillF]

They're small.......or you a really big thumb.

 

[SpiritRelic]

The coil list is unreal,and also plenty aftermarkets.What ever you plan to do with it will be the deciding factor for another coil.More open areas of parks would be a 12x10 DD.For working around tight trashy areas of a park the 5.75 concentric or DD would be great.Then for a do it all coil i would choose the 8" doughnut concentric.These 8" concentric coils have been found to work extremely well on all Tesoro detectors.The elliptical shape of the 9x8 stock does not seem as sharp as a round concentric.The pinpointing and laser like accuracy of the small 5.75 concentric and 8" open center concentric is amazing.The size and weight of Tesoro's is the best.If you want to ever pack it up you will be even more amazed,i pack my Tesoro in a book bag and take off on a bicycle.Keep your thoughts coming about the detector.

 

[WV62]

Am I right, wide scan and DD coil same, same?

 

[MarkCZ]

Here is some measurements,
3-1/2" at the widest point across the faceplate.
2-3/4" from the highest point at the bottom to the top edge. (I measured from the top of the saddle at the staff to the top edge of the housing just above the speaker)

Brother Ron, how does that measure out as compared to the Tejon?
I know I've seen you Tejon a couple of times, but I don't remember it being that small.

Mark

 

[WV62]

Here is some measurements,
3-1/2" at the widest point across the faceplate.
2-3/4" from the highest point at the bottom to the top edge. (I measured from the top of the saddle at the staff to the top edge of the housing just above the speaker)

Brother Ron, how does that measure out as compared to the Tejon?
I know I've seen you Tejon a couple of times, but I don't remember it being that small.

Mark

Okay I got that monster out, man is it ever big.

I am getting 4 1/4w x 3 3/4h.

Brother Ron

 

[BillF]

Ron, widescan and DD are the same. There might also be more info about the difference on Tesoros website.

 

[MarkCZ]

Here is some measurements,
3-1/2" at the widest point across the faceplate.
2-3/4" from the highest point at the bottom to the top edge. (I measured from the top of the saddle at the staff to the top edge of the housing just above the speaker)

Brother Ron, how does that measure out as compared to the Tejon?
I know I've seen you Tejon a couple of times, but I don't remember it being that small.

Mark

Okay I got that monster out, man is it ever big.

I am getting 4 1/4w x 3 3/4h.

Brother Ron

Well me thinking the Vaquero was rapped in the same package as the Tejon wasn't correct at all!
Keep in mind that the "V" has the battery box built into the control housing and the Tejon has its battery nest of 8 AA's under the arm cup.

Mark

 

[MarkCZ]

Ron, widescan and DD are the same. There might also be more info about the difference on Tesoros website.

Interesting!
So, if that's true then the "V" is to say "DD" (double d) ready. With the Tesoro's what the downside of the Wide Scan coils?

I have another brand that I use there DD coil with and I really like it, now it doesn't pinpoint as well, but I've learned that when I take a plug to just do a "Bathtub" shaped plug, but I really like long narrow shape of the detection field.

Mark

 

[BillF]

I'm not certain what you mean when you say DD ready. The 9x8 is a monolithic(?), whatever the heck that means. I think it still means its concentric, one coil inside the other, where the the DD is side by side and the detection field is where the magnetic field overlaps. But no matter what, I can tell you that the V loves the 5.75 DD, and in trashy areas, so do I.

 

[SpiritRelic]

Tesoro just picked the 9x8 concentric to be the stock coil.The 12x10 DD is about one of the best.And yes DD is same as widescan. :-D

 

[BillF]

I think the downside to a DD is it is not as deep. But I dont think it makes much difference for coinshooting, the difference in depth cant be that much.

 

[MarkCZ]

I'm not certain what you mean when you say DD ready. The 9x8 is a monolithic(?), whatever the heck that means. I think it still means its concentric, one coil inside the other, where the the DD is side by side and the detection field is where the magnetic field overlaps. But no matter what, I can tell you that the V loves the 5.75 DD, and in trashy areas, so do I.

Some detectors do not have DD coils for them, and their electronics are not setup, calibrated to effectively use DD coils. If a company puts a detector on the market that they also make DD coils for then it would be my understanding that the electronics in that unit are DD ready! (designed to work with the DD technology)

Mark

 

[BillF]

OIC Now I understand.

I'm not certain what you mean when you say DD ready. The 9x8 is a monolithic(?), whatever the heck that means. I think it still means its concentric, one coil inside the other, where the the DD is side by side and the detection field is where the magnetic field overlaps. But no matter what, I can tell you that the V loves the 5.75 DD, and in trashy areas, so do I.

Some detectors do not have DD coils for them, and their electronics are not setup, calibrated to effectively use DD coils. If a company puts a detector on the market that they also make DD coils for then it would be my understanding that the electronics in that unit are DD ready! (designed to work with the DD technology)

Mark

 

[MarkCZ]

I learned even more today as I actually used it to metal detect my yard.

Here is a link to a post about that little hunt and its results.
http://www.findmall.com/read.php?17,1872712

But what I learned today was in pinpointing, I didn't even feel the need to go to "Pinpoint Mode" it was so easy to just pinpoint in discrimination mode. In doing that I can say that I dug my usual plug size and I was on target at lest 20 of the 22 digs, and the two that I was off was only slightly and that do to other really close metal objects.

Next, I learned that good headphones with a volume limiter works GREAT with the Tesoro Vaquero! I had full control of the volume and it NEVER got to loud unless I turned the limiter off.

I had ZERO problems with rusty nails with a disc setting one notch above iron (see my other thread for more information)

So far so good.

Mark

 

[WV62]

I think in you will find a need for the PP mode later, I would say I PP in the disc mode on the high side of 75% of the time. But for those times when it just will not PP in disc, it is nice to have the all metal PP mode.

Brother Ron

 

[JHM]

you whings about it for a long will be learning time. The way to tell a good target from a bad by the sound is the key. it takes time