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The Omega has arrived!!! I'm impressed!!

K

Keithbar

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Well folks, I just got my Omega in and MAN!!!! :yikes: The recovery rate is simply outstanding!! I have not taken it out yet but I did play with the "quick start" setup that is in the manual. I took a quarter, a nickle, gold ring, silver ring, and a finger nail file (wife made me do that) and I simply could not believe the recovery speed as I passed each item under the 11" dd coil...It didn't matter how fast I passed any of the items under the coil, it recovered and identified each pass with clarity...The 3 tones made it nice so my wife and I decided to pass the gold ring and the silver ring under the coil at the same time and it recognized the two different metals, identifying each with a different tone. I now have confidence that in a real world situation I would be able to at least know that possibly two different items are in the same hole...That is awesome!! However, I wasn't satisfied yet, so I took my XLT and tried the same test...NOT EVEN CLOSE! It's like walking two different dogs! I have confidence that I can recover the good stuff in the trashy areas...Of course, a pull tab, gold ring (small) and a nickle will get the same results out of the Omega but I will be able to make an informed decision because I know that the Omega will let me know something is there when the XLT would simply fail to recognize the good beside the bad...When I put the machine together, I was a little doubtful of the quality (seemed light and cheaply made) but I'm learning not to judge a book by it's cover. It isn't as robust or sturdy as the XLT but I have every confidence in its abilities, and you will only hunt as hard as your confidence in your machine will allow..I have plenty!!! Looking for advice on settings...hunting mainly old home sites. Thanks in advance
 
I believe you will really enjoy the Omega. On my Omega, 57 is the key number for nickels. Shallow ones lock on solid 57. As they get some depth, I will get a little bounce from 56-58. Unfortunately, square tabs fall into that same range, but you will end up digging a lot of nickels. I suggest playing around with the settings and see what you may like. I like to hear everything, so I set my disc on 1 and sen as high as I am comfortable with. Good luck and enjoy. HH jim tn
 
The idea of a recovery speed test is to see how fast your detector recovers after going over a discriminated target such as a nail.....not by just waving an object as fast as you can in front of the coil.Most of the latest high range detectors will pass the test you did with the omega.Try putting a rusty 3" nail on the floor and discriming it out.Then put a coin next to the nail which should be lengthways on to the sweep of the coil and see how close you can pick the coin up after going over the nail.This is a true test of the recovery speed....the closer to the nail you can pick up the good target with a clean signal,the better the detector is at recovering.This is why it is so important to have a fast recovering detector in areas of high iron trash......a detector needs to have the ability to discrim a ferous item and still register a good non ferous item that is close by.It is a lot easier for a detector to recognise multiple non ferous targets due to the fact that they are closer in relation to conductivity.Also in a real world situation,i.e,when the targets are in the ground, it can become a lot harder for a detector to give an accurate indication of what is good and what is bad.For example,if there was a gold ring right next to a piece of aluminium the target response can get so mashed together that sometimes the target can get recognised as trash,especially if the aluminium is slightly shallower than the gold ring.Try it in your yard......bury a ring in close proximity to a piece of aluminium and you may find your detector is not so accurate as you would have hoped.This is why the most successful detectorists dig more trash than anyone else......but they also dig more good stuff as well.Relying on a detector to give accurate information on multiple non ferous targets will lead to missed good finds and thats a fact in the real world unfortunately.
 
The Omega is a rather interesting unit. I am assuming you used the stock concentric coil for your target recovery test. The Omega is a fast recoverer. It rivals machines that cost twice as much or more in recovery speed. Now here's the interesting part. Put a DD coil on that Omega and its recovery speed will equal that of a Teknetics T2. I got that tidbit straight from the horse's mouth. I know of no other unit on the market that will show as much of a performance increase as the Omega when a DD coil is used instead of a concentric coil. For the money. IMHO, its the best buy going. Garrett liked it so much, they patterned (copied) the AT Pro after it. Garrett owners won't admit it, but if you look at the two machines, its obvious. The Omega still outperforms it in my book. The DD coils have downsides so I will leave it to you to research that. Be happy. You have an outstanding unit.
 
Thanks for the advice Scoper...I will do as you have said... I was just stating that The Omega has a much faster recovery rate than my XLT in an open air test.....This isn't my first dance (been detecting for 28 yrs), Its that I have been so "brand loyal" That I failed to keep up with the other manufacturers. So while I am not new to the hobby, I have a lot to learn about the newer technology...I'm old school. I cut my detecting teeth on a "D-tex Kion King" , which had a manual ground balance. Simple TR/VLF machine that was good back in the mid 80s...I ran it in VLF all the time (dug tons of crap but found a lot of good stuff too)....Graduated from that machine after 3 years to a Tesoro Golden Sabre, with the hipmount (great silent search machine with incredible depth in the late 80s)...I learned to really love that machine until I fell down a hill and landed on top of it (Yes, a very sad day). It was the first machine I ever used that incorporated the notch-discriminate. From there, I Graduated to a Whites Silver Eagle with the VDI scale, then the Whites Eagle II SL, and finally the XLT....I did have a Fisher 1260X somewhere in between the Whites but I didn't care for how sensitive it was to the iron/ore soils in the piney woods of Louisiana....I appreciate any advice you have to offer because I am not familiar with the newer technology, as I said. But I know what it takes in terms of patience, research, dogged determination, commitment, focus, physical requirements, and the appreciation one gets from hunting all day and bringing to light an old coin or relic that hasn't seen the light of day for 200 yrs.....You sound like a tech savvy individual so if you have any suggestions or settings that you are willing to share, please know that I do appreciate it...I can learn from anyone and everyone in this forum.

KB
 
TDigger, I did the test on both the concentric and the 11" DD...I bought the combo kit, which also includes the 5"DD....I will be picking your brain and anyone else's who will be interested in sharing their experiences with this machine. I think that having a place like this forum is a great way to interact, and ask for help or suggestions from those who have the knowledge to share...I also appreciate your feedback on the comparison you experienced in your test between the Omega and the Silver Eagle, and I agree with you on the Silver Eagle, Eagle II, and the XLT. They are basically the same machine other than a few bells and whistles as they upgraded from one to the other...It was my experience that the knowledge one gains, as it pertains to the basics on either of those machines, in terms of operation and VDI technology, was transferable from one machine to the other....I am fairly confident that the knowledge I have accumulated over the years with a Whites machine, will not transfer to the Omega--totally different technology.

KB
 
Thanks for sharing your settings Jim.....I will certainly give those a try.

KB
 
I've had my Omega for about 2 years now, and it didn't take long for it to become my "go to" detector. I have several detectors, and several brands of detectors, and enjoy using all of them...however, the Omega is something special, and there is so much in it for any detectorist is most detecting conditions. You will get useful information from this forum, but I recommend that you get to know your Omega by using it as much as possible in the conditions where you hunt. The three coils you have are all useful in varying conditions, and you will pick up which coils suit which conditions. e.g. the 10" concentric coil is the coil I use most round parks and sports fields, because it has very good depth in my area, and more readily identifies serrated bottle caps. I also recommend that you experiment with the tones...my own preference is d2 or A2,and I do most of my hunting in these tones, whereas some people like the multi-tones. The tone options available make this detector something special for me. But the tones are just one of the many features of this machine, and experimenting is really the only way you'll find out what suits you best. Good luck with your purchase and I'm sure you will enjoy it.
 
Thank you T........I will be spending a lot of time in the field as soon as weather conditions permit....I'm asking questions because I can't get in the field yet--dang it!...Thanks for the advice on the concentric.
 
Many of us are locked in by winter. But bench testing is very worthwhile. Get some metal trash from detecting and start practicing with co-located targets. Each of those coils behave differently. Both in ID numbers and audio. You'll greatly accelerate your field finds by learning this before you hit the dirt in Spring. I like the D2 tone also.
I forgot to mention. The Omega is really sensitive to EMI (electro magnetic interference). Usually in urban areas. So you will have to dial down the sensitivity to keep it stable. But even at reduced sens, it still goes deep. The 5" coil is a good choice when EMI is high, as smaller coils are less prone to it. The 5" coil is amazing. It gets only 1-2" less depth than the big 11" DD and is a coin sniffing beast in trash. Its my favorite coil.
Also, the Omega sens can be set higher, and the machine will chatter, but when you start sweeping it, the chattering stops and its smooth. Stop sweeping, the chatter returns. This is a way to squueze out some extra sens for a little more depth.
Also, if you haven't done so already, use the advanced search function on Findmall. Key in.....Omega...select...exact word...select....all dates. Then you will be Omega info Heaven.
 
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