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The new Minelab mid-range Gold Detector

Just went live on the Minelab website this morning...

http://www.minelab.com/emea/consumer/knowledge-base/news?article=203460

MINELAB WILL BE ANNOUNCING FURTHER DETAILS ABOUT OUR EXCITING NEW MIDRANGE GOLD DETECTOR ON DECEMBER 9TH.
This compact waterproof detector is positioned above Minelab
 
""Why gamble on the alternatives when the real performer is just around the corner?"" --- I think i will get one and do some video test vs the ATX and see if Minelab is right! Can't wait...more fun toys to play with! Very exciting all these new detectors coming out...

Bearkat
 
Minelab needs this machine to head off the ATX, but they won't have it for a while The North America/Australia market seems to be the target for this ad - where they describe it as "the ideal machine for those who are beginning to gold prospect". Garrett is working hard to make a splash in these markets with the ATX, and before this announcement, ML's only PI alternative for the beginning gold prospector was to buy a GPX machine. By pre-announcing this new detector, they are offering "non consumption" as an alternative. They are saying to prospective ATX buyers "wait for our machine - we are the real pros and you will be glad you waited". This will no doubt work in many cases and may turn out to be good advice if the new machine is superior to the ATX.

A couple of things however. The ATX is here now, and in parts of the Southwest, gold hunting season is the winter - summer is just too hot. You can buy an ATX now, use it all winter - and next spring or summer decide if the new ML is better for your needs. If so, you will be one of the first to offer an ATX used, so the cost for a season's detecting could be as little as a few hundred dollars.

The other thing is that this announcement will also cause some "non-consumption" of GPX machines. If the release is only a few weeks away, then there is no big problem. If it is months away however, that's another matter. I looked up the lead time on the ML CTX - from detailed announcement to dealers saying that they had units in stock - and it looked like about 1 month. Hopefully this won't take longer, but a month from 9 Dec. pretty well excludes Christmas.

Minelab also needs this machine in their far more important Asian, African and South American Markets. It was apparently already shown in Brazil at a dealers conference. In these markets, not only is the presumably lower price an issue, but the rugged construction and simpler battery arrangement allowing the use of cheap alkaline batteries which don't require recharging. If you are in a thatched hut village in the Nile River State of Sudan, recharging batteries can present a problem and even though disposable batteries cost more, the logistics are overall simpler.

When it is actually released, it will present the same dilemma vs. the GPX5000 that the ATX presents (and the TDI for that matter) - namely, how much of what I need from a gold detector can this new machine do vs. a GPX 5000. If the new ML machine is as capable as the ATX, the question will come up. If it is more capable than the ATX, then the GPX-5000 will come in for even more competition for consumer $$.

The optimum solution from ML's viewpoint would be for this new machine to be at least 90% as capable as the GPX and clearly superior to the AXT while selling in the same price range. They would then replace the GPX with their new Advanced Gold Detector. As Steve has pointed out however, this advanced machine is apparently not slated for a 2014 release.

Exciting times!
 
The real question for many is going to be the price. They label it as an upgrade to the 705 for gold prospecting, but if the price is $2000+ I would call that a good size upgrade. And from past occurrences, it is likely that this md will be more than the ATX. It will be interesting to see if ML's new md will offer more the the ATX, or basically match it. If its a match, price will win out for many. Take the Garrett Propointer v. ML Profind for example.
 
I travel to Caribbean for shallow water jewelry hunting and currently use the ML CTX 3030 and Excalibur. I've tried all the water PIs too and have done very well with an Infinium. The ATX has my attention. I sure hope the new Minelab gold machine will work in saltwater, because such a compact folding detector would be ideal for travel! This is assuming it's a PI. If it's some sort of VLF like the AT Pro- most likely it would not handle the salt well. Either way this is really exciting, because we treasure hunters benifit with the latest and greatest. I for one sure like the direction detector design is going. Waterproof, better ergonomics, simpler, high tech looks and folding!
 
I heard the new ML will be $3500, but just a rumor...we shall find out soon.

BK
 
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''The optimum solution from ML's viewpoint would be for this new machine to be at least 90% as capable as the GPX and clearly superior to the AXT while selling in the same price range. They would then replace the GPX with their new Advanced Gold Detector. As Steve has pointed out however,''
There may not be that much room in there., maybe none
 
I Haven't heard weather its pulse induction yet or not. reading the patent it sounds like a mod to the Fbs platform with the addition a square wave and the ability to lock frequencies.

But I'm no designer and most of it was over my head.
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Sounds and looks interesting for sure. I do see a couple of discrepancies in that design which I won't elaborate at the moment, maybe after it's released.

I do like compact metal detectors for some reason and this one does look good, but I'm thinkin I'll stay with Garrett. They have a great design team that likes thinking outside of the box as you can see in the AT Pro/ AT Gold and now the ATX.

Garrett's support team is also second to none in my opinion, and that's from first hand experience.

Just my 2-cents worth.

:)
 
I got the email this morning. Any idea on the waterproof depth rating? It's gonna have to be better than 3 meters to interest me.
 
steve herschbach said:
There has been no real specification information released.

Yeah, I know. That's why I came here after receiving the email. I thought maybe someone here had maybe done some prototype work with it & could maybe offer up a few tidbits on what to expect...VLF or PI...waterproof rating etc...I've used a lot of different Minelab products & have owned a couple of Explorers as well as a couple of GPX units. They are very capable detectors & very well made....but another thing that caught my eye was towards the bottom of the page, IN BOLD"

Why gamble on the alternatives when the real performer is just around the corner?

I hope it's not just an alternative in name only...
 
This looks the same design as the F3 compact mine detector...looks like it will be blue instead of green and different electronics of course. Kinda exciting, new toys!
 
A two page spec sheet is available, but if one post it here........ one gets banned :nono:............past experience with X-Terra. :sadwalk:


ivanll
 
Is it on Minelab's website? I'd like to see it...
 
I think I will stay with what I know: Garrets and Whites.
Just watching the ATX videos has got my attention. I
really like how compact the ATX is for travel. Easy
to put in the overhead compartment on Jet travel.
Robt2300
 
Thanx much for the info Steve. I always like to try all the new stuff and haven't owned a Minelab in years. 3500 was the last one if memory serves me right. I Like the underwater and foldability as suckn' gravel is gettn' downright dangerous. Us boyz do like new toyz-respect-John:twodetecting:
 
steve herschbach said:
Hmmmm, tomorrow is the day. Real information or just another tease?

No info yet..................09 Dec 2013 started some 9 hours ago since it's now 08:00 our time..............Minelab integrity :pinnochio
 
i get a kick out of people here taking shots at minelab but then again everybody always tries to knock off the king of the hill.
 
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