Find's Treasure Forums

Welcome to Find's Treasure Forums, Guests!

You are viewing this forums as a guest which limits you to read only status.

Only registered members may post stories, questions, classifieds, reply to other posts, contact other members using built in messaging and use many other features found on these forums.

Why not register and join us today? It's free! (We don't share your email addresses with anyone.) We keep email addresses of our users to protect them and others from bad people posting things they shouldn't.

Click here to register!



Need Support Help?

Cannot log in?, click here to have new password emailed to you

Changed email? Forgot to update your account with new email address? Need assistance with something else?, click here to go to Find's Support Form and fill out the form.

The mother of all Wheaties!!!!!!!!!!

SilverDrvn

New member
Seldom do I post but I figured this one was worthy... It came out in a portland area park 7-8" I've literally found 1000's of wheats and this is the first real Key date besides a few 11s's. Completely stoked. also found an 09 indian but couldn't find an "s" on that one. I soaked it in olive oil and scrubbed it with a soft bristle tooth brush and it flaked off on the edges in two places :( how do you guys usually handle rare coppers? Worth grading?
 
Thats a nice penny! Must be some park to hold that many wheaties? Good Job!:clapping:
Mud
 
A VDB. Are you selling it ?

I have two 1914 ds that I want to sell but dont know how to or where to.

I wouldnt clean it anymore.
 
I don't see VDB on it. Am I missing it?

Still worth a nice chunk. Guess I need to check mine. I know I have one, at least. Didn't realise it was worth that much.
Nice find. Congrats.
 
Awesome find.I would find a coin dealer in your area & have them send it to NGC for conservation.They'll put it in a holder with a details grade.Probly cost $60 or so,but well worth it.You will recoup that money when you ever go to sell it.Probly a $1000 coin the way it sits.Congrats!:super:HH
 
Bill, look at the picture of the back of the coin. Click on it to enlarge it and look at the bottom of the coin, just above the rim. That's where the VDB is.
 
Awesome find. I don't want you to pay the grading fee and be disappointed.

It's just my opinion, but I am not sure if you will get a "grade" if you submit the coin to PCGS or NGC. It will probably come back in a holder that says "AU Details/Environmental Damage/Authentic" or something close to that.

With that being said - the coin may still be worth more in a holder b/c some buyers will feel more confident they are buying a genuine coin. I have not sent a coin to NGC for preservation so I can't comment on that - but it may be an option as posted above.

Still an awesome find and a valuable coin!
 
congrats! that baby is a beauty!
 
Now that's a find! You could send it out to be graded, but odds are they won't grade it and return it as authentic. The may put what the details grade out as and mark it damaged. In my personal and professional opinion based on the photo I would say it probably grades a VF-30. FYI, I was a contributor to the Guide Book of United States Coins (the Redbook) for about 10 years.
Don
 
Can one of you guys explain why it would be returned unauthentic acted and as "damaged"? Is it the nick on the edge or is it something to do with it having been in the ground?

Thanks
 
It has environmental damage from being in the ground.Look at the Obverse (front of coin) the main problems are at 1:00 & 8:00
Still a beauty and valuable none the less,
 
Rick - I don't think your coin would come back as "unauthentic," neither NGC or PCGS will put a coin in a holder if it is not real. I think they would put your coin in a holder that says "genuine," meaning the coin is authentic. Don is a much better source of information about the details grade - so I'll leave that part alone!

Your second question is about the damage - the short and simple answer is both? The nicks on the edge are considered damage, a very small nick may be OK but these are beyond that classification. The signs of environmental corrosion are also considered damage and can prevent a coin from getting a numerical grade. When talking about grading a coin, another factor to consider cleaning. You stated in your post that you cleaned the coin by scrubbing it with a tooth brush after soaking it in olive oil. The cleaning process can alter the natural surface of the coin and can be detected when a coin is submitted for grading.

These reasons (in my opinion) would prevent this coin from getting a numerical grade. If you want to know more about grading there are many good books on the subject. There are also many books and articles that deal specifically with the coin you found!

Pulling a 1909 S-VDB out of the ground in any condition is really awesome - and speaking generally your coin is in great shape for being in the ground for 100+ years. I mean - the odds of finding one of those in the ground are astronomically small. However, the world of coin grading has its own special rules - and generally speaking, coins with any king of damage (including: cuts; chips; large scratches; holes; improper cleaning; environmental damage; dipping; whizzing; and others) will not receive a numerical grade. I'm not a coin dealer or a grader, these are just my opinions.

Shawn
 
Great looking coin and in good shape for being in the ground for all this time! It still has value, but the real value is in the memories you will always have of the hunt and find. Thanks for sharing, HH
 
Top