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The CZ is a 21 year old design and still being made, that's old enough to be a Classic-but they have a new model of it.
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HaroldILL.
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Man you had me goin' there for a moment! I thought they came out with a new up dated CZ and was ready to get the plastic out! To be honest the CZ is the only 20 plus year old Technology that can keep up with the top Detectors of today! I will always have a CZ in my line up.
I remember when that first came out. Sheesk has it already been 21 yrs? The only things I didn't like about that machine, was:
a) the ID accuracy wained after the first 6 or 7" Beyond that, everything sounded the same.
b) it had a fondness for nails, which would frequently bang up in the coin range. So the advocates would tell you that the way around this problem, was to only dig the targets which repeated consistently. And to skip any one-way signals, or ones that waffled between IDs, etc.... But the problem was, that those same advocates would admit that the deeper coins could waffle between ID's, and/or give one-way signals!! So which is it ? They also had ingenious methods of comparing the all-metal mode pinpoint, with the ID and such, to tell them nail-falses. But pretty much even the CZ experts, when you pressed them, would admit that the ID wained at depths.
c) I never cared for the silent search.
Nonetheless, they did great on the beach, and furroughed fields with that. There was a guy here with a 10" coil on his CZ, that would frequently go up to a foot deep on the beach! And they were very easy to use.
a) the ID accuracy wained after the first 6 or 7" Beyond that, everything sounded the same.
b) it had a fondness for nails, which would frequently bang up in the coin range. So the advocates would tell you that the way around this problem, was to only dig the targets which repeated consistently. And to skip any one-way signals, or ones that waffled between IDs, etc.... But the problem was, that those same advocates would admit that the deeper coins could waffle between ID's, and/or give one-way signals!! So which is it ? They also had ingenious methods of comparing the all-metal mode pinpoint, with the ID and such, to tell them nail-falses. But pretty much even the CZ experts, when you pressed them, would admit that the ID wained at depths.
c) I never cared for the silent search.
Nonetheless, they did great on the beach, and furroughed fields with that. There was a guy here with a 10" coil on his CZ, that would frequently go up to a foot deep on the beach! And they were very easy to use.
I had five CZ's over about a 10 year period, an original 6 I had Fisher convert to a 6a, three 5's and a 7a Pro, and what you said in your post is an accurate description of how they performed. Having said that, I have to admit I really liked them and found a lot coins and Civil War relics with them, if I hadn't bought a Cointrax Treasure Baron just to resell I would probably still be using them. In my mild ground the Baron was as deep as the CZ's and the ID was way, way more accurate on targets over 7 inches deep, plus it was a lot quieter and it didn't give the continuous high tone spikes on iron off to the sides of the coil.like the CZ's did.
HaroldILL.
Active member
Hey JB, How old is the Baron Technology? It is another old analog that can keep up with todays detectors. I keep forgeting about the Treasure baron's.
vlad
Well-known member
If you run at iron notched out it will give false signal spikes at higher coin notches in your swing-I think these are places where an edge of something
or the signal between two bad targets hit, iron, or iron at the end of the swing.You stop and look and its gone. Put it on 0 and sweep it over the same area and its totally different-it i.d.'s the iron with tones, without the falses. The nails pointed perpendicular spike high coin, but will pinpoint 1.5/2.5" away from the target motion center. Often it will continue to read coin and the pinpoint is your only clue, or dig it.The detector will go so deep it gets beyond the range of the pinpoint and you have to use the motion mode. Another thing you find out is to turn up the volume; you will hear signals the detector hit that were faint and you could not hear-in a way a second sensitivity. Keep going and you get noise from the detector circuit/ground and at some point and up it gets bad-static and chatter. You learn that sound, it takes some getting used to and a trained ear and what the coins sound like through it, you can add a lot of depth-in a way its a threshold. It will i.d correct deeply to a point, but thankfully will bump up a deep good target to a higher notch like other detectors. What I really hate is fill dirt, good targets and i.d.'s and the detector is identifying but I dig targets that are in the tab zone and are deep, you just never know what you might find, especially with nails thrown in. Having all the upper coins in one notch really makes it interesting, especially with the 10.5" loop. Wish there was a SEF for it. The big Sunray beat me to death. Getting the ground balance perfect was critical or it would read hot rocks.I swear to God, lay that thing across a track and it would derail a train. Bill Ladd said he thought he got a little more depth with the big Sunray.(I didn't know about the swingy thingy then) I have the CZ-70 Pro and plan on getting another, Mr Bill said he prefers it too.
A friend has my original CZ-6 converted to 6A. It quit working last year, a crystal went out. Fisher said there were parts in it they had never seen & didn't have, its just OLD!
Its a two digit serial number; its also, in its first 6 months was the first CZ to have a meter go bad. Original cost was $550.
I think it has been a hell of a buy.
or the signal between two bad targets hit, iron, or iron at the end of the swing.You stop and look and its gone. Put it on 0 and sweep it over the same area and its totally different-it i.d.'s the iron with tones, without the falses. The nails pointed perpendicular spike high coin, but will pinpoint 1.5/2.5" away from the target motion center. Often it will continue to read coin and the pinpoint is your only clue, or dig it.The detector will go so deep it gets beyond the range of the pinpoint and you have to use the motion mode. Another thing you find out is to turn up the volume; you will hear signals the detector hit that were faint and you could not hear-in a way a second sensitivity. Keep going and you get noise from the detector circuit/ground and at some point and up it gets bad-static and chatter. You learn that sound, it takes some getting used to and a trained ear and what the coins sound like through it, you can add a lot of depth-in a way its a threshold. It will i.d correct deeply to a point, but thankfully will bump up a deep good target to a higher notch like other detectors. What I really hate is fill dirt, good targets and i.d.'s and the detector is identifying but I dig targets that are in the tab zone and are deep, you just never know what you might find, especially with nails thrown in. Having all the upper coins in one notch really makes it interesting, especially with the 10.5" loop. Wish there was a SEF for it. The big Sunray beat me to death. Getting the ground balance perfect was critical or it would read hot rocks.I swear to God, lay that thing across a track and it would derail a train. Bill Ladd said he thought he got a little more depth with the big Sunray.(I didn't know about the swingy thingy then) I have the CZ-70 Pro and plan on getting another, Mr Bill said he prefers it too.
A friend has my original CZ-6 converted to 6A. It quit working last year, a crystal went out. Fisher said there were parts in it they had never seen & didn't have, its just OLD!
Its a two digit serial number; its also, in its first 6 months was the first CZ to have a meter go bad. Original cost was $550.I think it has been a hell of a buy.