I have been used to swinging the 5 x 8 coil for a long time now, but today I was getting hits of 84 to 87 to 90 and after digging a hole that the pin pointer Garrett carrot went all the way into and still only a small beep, I gave up. The Garrett carrot is 9 inches long and it was below the surface of the ground. I sure will be happy when the 5x8 comes in.