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That Sweet Nickle Sound & 144, 145, or 146 Number

Critterhunter

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I don't know about you guys but with my DigiSearch meter on noise band 2 if the target sounds smooth and round and reads stable at 145 or 146 (most common, but I have dug a few that read down to 139 or so) then I almost bet money it's a nickle. I've noticed to that if the VDI changes a bit by say 2 or especially 3 numbers then when I dig it it almost always turns out to be oddly shaped trash. Being ununiform in shape targets will have trouble locking onto 1 or 2 VDI numbers. Really I think most of my nickles have locked onto just one number no matter what way I sweep (probably 145 is most common), but sometimes they's change by say a digit depending on which way I'm sweeping. I like to sweep around these targets from different angles, and if it changes by say 3 digits or more then it always turns out to be trash for me.

That's one of the perks about the Sovereign. It may have no coin resolution above a copper penny, but the low and mid range of targets all the way from tiny foil all the way up to copper penny is greatly expanded compared to other machines on the market. I'm not aware of any machine (? Somebody know of one?) that has as high of resolution in this range as the Sovereign. None that I've used or read specs closely on, anyway. I've noticed in the MXT/M6 forum that guys complain that they can't tell the difference in VDI numbers between nickles or tabs. Glad the Sovereign has this ability. At the place we've been hunting lately I've been killing nickles, and many old ones 4 to 5" deep or so...But no buffalos, Vs, or shields yet at this spot. Since barbers have been popped there I expect that to happen any time I dig a nickle number that is say 5" or deeper. Wheats seem to start at about 6" at this site, so right in there depth wise or deeper is where I'm expecting them to start showing up.

It's been obvious at many places I've hunted with the Sovereign by the number of nickles I'm digging that there aren't too many machines from the competition that has high enough resolution in the nickle VDI range to tell them apart from tabs, foil, and other junk. Does anybody know of any machines that do have this ability? Like I said, for the most part I haven't owned one that could do this like a Sovereign. Well, the 6000 Pro XL was close but I still dug more trash with that that read in the nickle range on it.

The other big perk of digging those singles I'm sure are going to be nickles is you never know when a gold ring might turn off. By my number crunching of the VDI of over 100 rings we sampled there really aren't more gold rings in the nickle range, but it's still more fun to bend down and dig the target when I should at least come up with a nickle, and maybe an old nickle. I think the old myth that most gold rings read in the nickle range was due to the poor resolution on many detectors over the years. In reality the "nickle zone" on many machines is including everything from foil to pull tabs. Thus how I think that old saying got started.

I suspect that some old Vs, Buffalos, and Shields might read as low as say 136 to 139 or so due to them degrading in the ground. On the other hand, I wonder if they develop a halo that might make some old nickles read even higher than say 146? Anybody?
 
I ran my Tornado 10" coil over 4 nickles all showed between 124 to 128 the War nickle bounced around betwwen 128 to 132 . the test was done outside on a wood board not in ground . Tone,s were that nickle grown raspy sound . Jim
 
That's pretty low. Are you using the 550 meter or something? Every nickle I've tested just about has ran around 145, with 144 or 146 being the second most common number...But mostly 145. I've even dug about 3 or 4 war nickles over the last year or two that rang right in at those numbers, but I have heard that some get higher readings from war nickles than that. Probably depends on what kind of condition they are in the ground.
 
Most war nickles will read 143-146 like the reg nickles, but some will read up to 151 for me and still have the nickle tone to them, once you get to know your Sovereign you will know it is a nickle with out looking at the meter.
I have also seen a few war nickles read as high as a zinc penny which I couldn't believe when I had someone tell me they got a few. The nickle was sent to me and on every detector in my shop showed it as a zinc penny. I ask around and was told that there is Manganese in it and will leach out while in some ground and the nickle will read higher. Around here I have only heard on one doing this, but in other parts of the country there are many because of the ground conditions.
 
Critterhunter said:
That's pretty low. Are you using the 550 meter or something? Every nickle I've tested just about has ran around 145, with 144 or 146 being the second most common number...But mostly 145. I've even dug about 3 or 4 war nickles over the last year or two that rang right in at those numbers, but I have heard that some get higher readings from war nickles than that. Probably depends on what kind of condition they are in the ground.
Stupid me !!! i put the wrong numbers down i meant 144 to 148 on my 180 Insight meter as Rick said War nickles do come up different depending on the year if i was using my DFX nickles would come up +24 to +28 War nickles up to +32 , sorry about that :detecting: Jim
 
Thought this was interesting reading in the MXT forum. Just doesn't have the resolution of the Sovereign for finding the nickles while not digging a lot of trash. The MXT is known as a great gold ring hunter, and I know of a guy locally who swears he can hear the difference between a gold ring and a pull tab with the same VDI # on his MXT. He just about only land hunts for gold rings and has done rather well at it. I always keep hearing about his latest gold ring find among my circle of detecting friends. With the high resolution in the low to mid range on a Sovereign, combined with it's excellent detailed audio and tone alerts, it should in fact have even more ability to split hairs on junk versus rings in certain situations. Anyway, here's the thread about nickle trouble with the MXT/M6...

http://www.findmall.com/read.php?25,1690270
 
The two V's I got last week read 145-146. But last year I got a couple Buffs from two different places and both read lower at 138-139. I don't know what the metal composition is between the two styles but maybe there us a slight difference in makeup, making Buffs read lower. Don't know, but nickles will almost always have a rounder smoother sound to them than say crumpled aluminum foil. When I encounter that I just go ahead and dig it. Shortly after I got my sov I got one of those 139 like numbers but didn't feel like digging it. I decided to move on and two steps later thought about and decided it was just too round sounding and uniform to not at least look at it again. Well, it turned out to be Buff. Lesson learned.
Good luck,Gary
 
The minerals in the soil can cause nickles to leach out or even absorb things and thus over time they can read lower on the scale. That said, I've dug old buffalos and Vs that read in the 144 to 146 range. I think it all depends on what the soil has done to them over time. For sure the best way to get the hint that it could be a nickle is if it sounds round and smooth and will stabilize on one or maybe two VDI numbers. Don't ever remember digging one that changed by 3 digits or more depending on how I swept over it. If it's in say the 136 to 148 range and sounds round and smooth and isn't jumpy then I'll dig those at old sites hoping for an old nickle of some type.
 
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