Thanks SkiWhiz -The Golden is a Treasure

[TimC.]

Hey Steve I received the Golden Umax yesterday and it was just as you said it was, although it was to late to go hunting I took it out today and may did I have a good time. I love the multi tones because it reminds me of the detector I grew up with and it was no problem to get back in the hang of it. I have many Tesoro's and this is my favorite. I've been reading some of the posts here about the adjustments that were made to it and what ever you did to it it worked. it cuts through the ground like a hot knife through butter. Thanks again for the fine (outstanding) detector and look forward to doing business with you in the future. Your a man of your word, which is a hard thing to find these days.

Thanks again Ski

TimC

 

[SkiWhiz]

Thanks for your kind words Tim it was a pleasure doing business with you as well. I am glad that someone like you ended up with my Golden, I wanted someone that would appreciate it get it, that's the main reason I didn't eBay it.

I highly recogmend Tim to anyone to do business with, he is a true gentleman. Thanks again Tim! Steve.

P.S. Quote Not trying to be a jerk,but don't you think you should disclose that you have been inside this detector changing factory settings?I wouldn't touch this this with a ten foot pole!

Thanks for having faith in me Tim, especially after reading a post like the one above.

 

[TimC.]

Hey SkiWhiz, if you ever want to sell any detectors in the future let me have first shot.

Thanks!
Tim

 

[SkiWhiz]

[quote TimC.]Hey SkiWhiz, if you ever want to sell any detectors in the future let me have first shot.

Thanks!
Tim[/quote] You got it my friend. Steve.

 

[kurt-ks]

Glad you like the Golden Tim,and Steve,BOY must have struck a nerve Well your right should have kept thoughts to myself Glad everything worked out for you.Have a great day--Kurt

 

[SkiWhiz]

[quote kurt-ks]Glad you like the Golden Tim,and Steve,BOY must have struck a nerve Well your right should have kept thoughts to myself Glad everything worked out for you.Have a great day--Kurt[/quote] Hey Kurt no harm done, it is just that you through in the I wouldn't touch this this with a ten foot pole! statement is what bothered me some. But you are right mentioning that I was inside the detector & made an adjustment is the right thing to do. Everything worked out well that's all that matters. Steve.

 

[SkiWhiz]

By the way Tim (or anyone else), if you need to adjust the Golden uMax ground adjustment or the tones here is a picture of the inside of the Golden. The blue pot. that is circled is for adjusting the ground balance & the other blue pot. is to adjust the tone settings. I advise using a small plastic phillips head screwdriver and turn in very small increments. These adjustments are so easy that even a caveman could do it. Steve.

 

[rmptr]

SkiWhiz, thanks for posting pics and advice for tinkering in the MD.

I like that!

People should know how to do at least basic things to their machinery, rather than be so reliant on others.

It would probably be a good idea to post that these products weren't designed for incessant twiddling inside the box, and the little adjustment pots would probably break if it were done on a regular basis...

Hope you find many Au with your new S uMax!

HH
rmptr

 

[GoldenRoyBoy]

My, My, SkiWhiz!
You sold the Golden!
Wasn't it less than a handful of days ago you and I were working a deal; had a deal and you backed out?
Didn't you tell me more than once the Golden was no longer for sale?

SkiWhiz, it's your detector and you could/can do with it whatever you like.
But, like I said; you led me to believe we had a deal and then snatched the rug out from under me telling me you changed your mind.
I think I understand why; now. I'll know better next time.

Take care; it's a strange world out there!
GRB

 

[SkiWhiz]

[quote GoldenRoyBoy]My, My, SkiWhiz!
You sold the Golden!
Wasn't it less than a handful of days ago you and I were working a deal; had a deal and you backed out?
Didn't you tell me more than once the Golden was no longer for sale?

SkiWhiz, it's your detector and you could/can do with it whatever you like.
But, like I said; you led me to believe we had a deal and then snatched the rug out from under me telling me you changed your mind.
I think I understand why; now. I'll know better next time.

Take care; it's a strange world out there!
GRB[/quote] To be honest with you GRB, there were a couple of people interested in my Golden before you. I would of sold it to you like I said I would but you kept wanting me to lower and lower the price. And not to mention me adding insurance,double boxing,etc. after I lowered the price as much as I could. You wanted me to sell the Golden to you for $250.00 and insure,etc. it. C'mon my friend I paid $350.00 dollars for it and loosing $100.00 is alot of money out of my pocket. I ended up selling it to TimC - he said if I had it still for sale for $250.00 he would take it. I emailed him and said that I needed another $10.00 to help cover shipping. He said ok, he actually gave me an extra $25.00 for it, sight unseen. So I sold it to him for $275.00 Tim knows what kind of person I am, and knows I am an honest guy. And you would to if you would of done any reviewing on the forums or on eBay using my eBay name as I sent it to you. So I look at it this way GRB - you snooze you loose! I suggest if you find a detector that you want don't try to nickel & dime the person. Remember this is just a hobby and nothing to get upset over,

BTW I wasn't and I haven't mentioned anything but now I am wondering if it is true when you said Tinfoil emailed you a few times more or less slamming me. No hard feeling GRB. Steve.

 

[GoldenRoyBoy]

Wow,
Yes, I offered $250 only because you, playing Technician had tinkered with, not only the GB but the tones also!
How was I suppose to know what I was getting? And, if you recall, I did later offer you $265 delivered.
Point is, you did not have to take my offer but you agreed to!!!
Now, fine, upstanding guy; the truth is, none of this no longer matters as it's not about a detector any longer; it's about a man's word.

SkiWhiz, since you wish to be so defensive and belitttling towards me, here's where you wrote I had first chance.
You never once mentioned you had another buyer.

Re: F/S Tesoro Golden

 

[GoldenRoyBoy]

**In response to an "EDIT" SkiWHiz sort of snuck in to his previous post!!!"

I think TinFoil may have already known what some of the board suspected; trying to warn me to beware of you SkiWhiz!!!
With the concerned gentleman's permission, certainly; I'll post his PMs that were sent over to me.

GRB

 

[GoldenRoyBoy]

Mr. TimC!
I tried to Email/PM you but had no luck.

My apologies for my responses under your thread. I sincerely hope you are pleased with the Golden as it is a fine little Tesoro!
I'll no longer be adding to this thread unless provoked to do so.

Enjoy your new toy!
GRB

 

[SkiWhiz]

[quote GoldenRoyBoy]**In response to an "EDIT" SkiWHiz sort of snuck in to his previous post!!!"

I think TinFoil may have already known what some of the board suspected; trying to warn me to beware of you SkiWhiz!!!
With the concerned gentleman's permission, certainly; I'll post his PMs that were sent over to me.

GRB[/quote] No I am not trying to get Tinfoil involved. I just think it is alittle low to go behind a man's back and bad mouth him when they don't have a clue, I don't care if it is you,Tinfoil,or my best friend. To bad the Friendly Metal Detecting forum got hacked and shut down for the time being or you could go there and see how my reputation stacks up. If any of you want me to leave this forum for whatever reason I will & with no hard feelings and with no fight. But as far as I am concerned this thread is closed and I am sorry to make an enemy, life is just too short. I do apologize to you Roy. I do take partial blame and I believe that there was some misunderstanding between us on the Golden. Steve.

On a final note - I really don't care what people call me or think of me but it does bother me when it comes to people not thinking that I am honest. Anyone is welcome to pm or email me and I will give you my real name/address/phone number/ all the forums that I belong to and have done business with/my eBay id/ and some Tesoro dealers that I do dealings with, I am 100% sure you will find nothing negative about me. Steve.

 

[Tinfoil]

As for your elecronic back ground you should have put it back where it was supposed to be (you did mark the pots didn't you) or sent it to the factory to have it returned to factory specs. I told him I would not touch it either. Oh BTW I just bought another golden and It has a warrenty card and it is new and no one has messed with it. I just told Roy to not mess with it and told him where he could get one and the guy to get it from. I gave him good advice. Man I could care less what you think of me. I posted below you should send it to the factory and get it fixed. I don't mess with things then try to sell them. I sure sent my Excellback to the factory at my Expense cause I am letting it go. I wanted the guy to have a Mint Excell and that is just what he is getting. You would not even answer my POST.

You never said one thing about you messing with it on your For Sale Post did you??????????

I saw buyer beware and that is what I told him. I think I said go buy it but send it to the factory to get fixed cause you can vary the tones with the Width knob without going into it.

Hey man if that is the kind of stuff you do I don't want to deal with you. You noticed I did not buy it, did I????? Wonder Why?????

Since I got drug into this by trying to help someone as I would do that for anyone I don't owe you anything. I am just Glad he did not buy it from you. Now the guy that bought it will never know what the machine will do cause you messed with it. What if the G/B is wrong for his area. What if the tones are are not to his hearing. That is what the factory is for. You tell them the type of mineralzation you have and they adjust it to that or he can for his area.

Also one other thing the factory probley would have worked with you to get it right before you sold it. I would never sell a detector I messed with and if I did I would have sent it in to be fixed at my expense and back to original condition before I sold it. Did you do that, NO.

I am glad you got rid of it though. If I was the guy that bought it, and I am glad I am not, as I don't want to deal with something like this, the first thing I would do is send it to the factory tell them what happended and ask would they return it to proper operation. They would probley do that for nothing since it is so new. Even if they do charge him a few bucks he saved that much on the deal. Really I got nothing else to say to you. Don't need to. The Golden is one heck of a detector just like it is. The only thing you have to do is G/B it to you area and have the coils balanced to your machune and the Factory will do that for you probley Free even if you don't have a warrenty. OK enough I am done. Later Jeryy aka Tinfoil

 

[SkiWhiz]

[quote Tinfoil]As for your elecronic back ground you should have put it back where it was supposed to be (you did mark the pots didn't you) or sent it to the factory to have it returned to factory specs. I told him I would not touch it either. Oh BTW I just bought another golden and It has a warrenty card and it is new and no one has messed with it. I just told Roy to not mess with it and told him where he could get one and the guy to get it from. I gave him good advice. Man I could care less what you think of me. I posted below you should send it to the factory and get it fixed. I don't mess with things then try to sell them. I sure sent my Excellback to the factory at my Expense cause I am letting it go. I wanted the guy to have a Mint Excell and that is just what he is getting. You would not even answer my POST.

You never said one thing about you messing with it on your For Sale Post did you??????????

I saw buyer beware and that is what I told him. I think I said go buy it but send it to the factory to get fixed cause you can vary the tones with the Width knob without going into it.

Hey man if that is the kind of stuff you do I don't want to deal with you. You noticed I did not buy it, did I????? Wonder Why?????

Since I got drug into this by trying to help someone as I would do that for anyone I don't owe you anything. I am just Glad he did not buy it from you. Now the guy that bought it will never know what the machine will do cause you messed with it. What if the G/B is wrong for his area. What if the tones are are not to his hearing. That is what the factory is for. You tell them the type of mineralzation you have and they adjust it to that or he can for his area.

Also one other thing the factory probley would have worked with you to get it right before you sold it. I would never sell a detector I messed with and if I did I would have sent it in to be fixed at my expense and back to original condition before I sold it. Did you do that, NO.

I am glad you got rid of it though. If I was the guy that bought it, and I am glad I am not, as I don't want to deal with something like this, the first thing I would do is send it to the factory tell them what happended and ask would they return it to proper operation. They would probley do that for nothing since it is so new. Even if they do charge him a few bucks he saved that much on the deal. Really I got nothing else to say to you. Don't need to. The Golden is one heck of a detector just like it is. The only thing you have to do is G/B it to you area and have the coils balanced to your machune and the Factory will do that for you probley Free even if you don't have a warrenty. OK enough I am done. Later Jeryy aka Tinfoil[/quote]

Wow Tinfoil, cool down. Last comment of this subject. The Golden was used when I bought it, the ground balance was way too negative for my area & when air testing the tones were off. So being used the Golden's warranty is no longer valid. All I did was adjust the ground balance to where it was neutral for my ground and I waived a nail/nickel/zinc penny/dime over the coil (air testing) to where I got a different tone for each. I just can't understand what the big deal is about sending it back to the company to do the same thing that I did. It really isn't that hard to take 2 screws out to remove the faceplate and then turn the potentiometers with a screwdriver. Like I said before and I am not trying to brag - I have been into electronics for almost 30 years and a satellite dealer since 1985 and have repaired many electronics alot more technical than a metal detector. Geesh if you get nervous about adjusting a pot. you out to try replacing one, especially micro one's. I don't know your electronic training or background and I don't care but I am qualified and licensed. Ok enough said over something so stupid, I don't have to prove myself to you or anyone else & I don't think this is what this forum is meant for. I opogize to the forum and I thank all of you members that have sent me an email or a pm for agreeing with me. Thanks! Steve.

P.S. For your information I did call Tesoro and I talked to Vince himself and told him what I did, he told me what tone should sound for what item.

Hey Tinfoil your subject line says - Re: I did not bad mouth you or slam you. I just told him you had no warrenty card for it and if it was a demo that the guy would have gave you a warrenty card.

I am not trying to doubt you but am asking you a straight up quetion - if this detector was a demo, should I got a warranty card with it? I would think the guy I bought it from wouldn't do any " funny" business after all he is a Tesoro dealer.

 

[SkiWhiz]

Thank you GoldenRoyBoy, I just wanted to publicly thank GBR for his nice pm, saying lets drop this sillyness and I agree 100%. It takes a real man to do such a thing especially when he feels let down. I do agree that I was wrong the way I handled the deal & I don't blame GRB for wanting to know all the details before buying my detector, I just hope that one thing was learned from all this & that is that a person can adjust/repair/etc. any electronic equipment if they are qualified to do so. Again Mr. GRB thank you for taking the time and letting the water go under the bridge. Like I said in my pm to you I would give you or anyone else the shirt off my back if I had to. Thanks! Steve.

 

[Tinfoil]

Where they were supposed to be. See what I mean. You keep digging this hole deeper You adjusted the tones cause you did not like them and you left them like that and sold it. Also what you do have to have is a good set of headphones to seperat the tones on the Golden and I reccomend the Timber Wolfs or something in the range of 150 ohms. Yeah I know how to replace a pot and I have had to adjust my Golden a few times for some bad ground and then had to put it back after I came back from relic hunting in bad dirt, that is why I marked the pot. Since I have gotten so old though I have a little bit of a shake and it is hard to get it back like it was but I do get it there. One other thing if I remember right if you adjust the tone pot it throws the dis. knob off.

So if you thumb the dis. knob it will not dis. at the same place as marked on the face plate. Also when you adjust the tone Pot. you should have the width knob at 12 O'clock and the notch sw. centered. Since I run my Golden at min. all the way CCW it never would matter to me anyway and I don't thumb the dis. knob. Although I am not a licenced Tech. and I have a small amount of space in my brain for electronics I have the common sense to mark a pot. so I can put it back just like it came if the adjustment don't work out. So when you try to insult my electronics back ground I just think you need to do a better job then what you have said.

BTW I spent 20 years in the Navy was a Aviation Electrician Chief when I retired. I had 26 weeks of Electronics B school, that is where you go to school 8 hours a day 5 days a week equal to a 2 year degree in Electronics at least that is what the collages say. Also 20 years as a senior aircraft inspector in civilian life. Of coarse the electronics training was 40 years ago but I think my small mind can handle a pot. adjustment. I don't know about doing pot tone adjustments or tuning a detector to the coils. You can bet it is not done by ear though. That is why they make O scopes. That is why I am smart enough to buy a detector with a warrenty and even one if they say it is a Demo then I don't buy it without the warrenty. I don't care what kind of dealer you have. Simple No warrenty NO DEAL.

Again I am glad you got rid of the detector. Next time just put it back like it was because, the next guy might have different hearing. If you mess with a machine, then say in your For Sale Ad what you did. Then you won't get pinged on by us old guys that have been around for a long time. I think you could have handled it a bit different. I know you would have gotten more $$$$'s for the detector. Anyway just some advice from a old guy that has been around for a long time metal detecting. HH I think I will go hunting. Later Jerry aka Tinfoil

 

[Tinfoil]

n/t

 

[SkiWhiz]

Ok Tinfoil, lesson learned on my part. Hope there are no hard feelings between us. Steve.