Thank you Tesoro for the Outlaw!

[marcomo]

Now that Tesoro has finally come out with a new detector, I'm sorry to see users that I really respect like Mike Hillis and Sven bashing it.

At a street price of 500 something for a detector with 3 coils that's a very good price, especially if it can hit a quarter in the ground at 10 - 10 1/4" like Robert says it will.

I'm hearing a lot of complaining about the fact that a Tesoro employee put out the field test but to be honest, no matter who writes it, have you ever read a field test that didn't gush about the new detector it was reviewing?

Yes, I am disappointed that it doesn't have multi-tones, much less a TID display. For the type of hunting I do, I'll echo Mike Hillis' oft-made comment that "tones rule."

In too many ways Tesoro seems to me like my grandpa who had an excavating company up until the 1930's and would never switch away from mules. The combination of automation and the depression did him in and my mom always carried the scars of going from being relatively wealthy to dirt poor. I realize there still is a market for single tone, beep and dig machines, but I can see that market is fading. Hopefully Tesoro sees that too.

I am really hoping that this detector does well, and I hope Tesoro flourishes in the future. They are a fine company, with excellent people. Great service, the best warranty in the business and of course the legendary Rusty Henry.

 

[SkiWhiz]

Now that Tesoro has finally come out with a new detector, I'm sorry to see users that I really respect like Mike Hillis and Sven bashing it.

At a street price of 500 something for a detector with 3 coils that's a very good price, especially if it can hit a quarter in the ground at 10 - 10 1/4" like Robert says it will.

I'm hearing a lot of complaining about the fact that a Tesoro employee put out the field test but to be honest, no matter who writes it, have you ever read a field test that didn't gush about the new detector it was reviewing?

Yes, I am disappointed that it doesn't have multi-tones, much less a TID display. For the type of hunting I do, I'll echo Mike Hillis' oft-made comment that "tones rule."

In too many ways Tesoro seems to me like my grandpa who had an excavating company up until the 1930's and would never switch away from mules. The combination of automation and the depression did him in and my mom always carried the scars of going from being relatively wealthy to dirt poor. I realize there still is a market for single tone, beep and dig machines, but I can see that market is fading. Hopefully Tesoro sees that too.

I am really hoping that this detector does well, and I hope Tesoro flourishes in the future. They are a fine company, with excellent people. Great service, the best warranty in the business and of course the legendary Rusty Henry.

Good post & I also have alot of respect for Sven. If I had the money I would give this new detector a try in a New York minute (oh yaw I am in New York, lol). For those of you expecting more, who is to say that this is their final detector, I am sure there will be many more to follow & maybe in the not too far future. Instead of being unsatisfied be thankful.

 

[Bucksport]

Funny skiwiz, I was thinking today that they rushed this one out because everyone wanted to buy the Bandido II again. Maybe they have another up their sleeves?? Ya never know.....

 

[Habanero]

I see no reason to lose respect among other Tesoro fans. We each have our own opinion and the right to express them here in the Tesoro forum. Not everyone is gonna like every single machine that Tesoro makes, no matter how big a fan they are. Newsflash: I don't really care too much for the Compadre! Blasphemy I know, but I liked the Silver umax and even thought fondly enough of the Cortes but just goes to show you can't please everyone and not all of us think alike. I admit I sounded harsh earlier but I was just sad that Tesoro did not make a unique snow flake of a detector just for little ole me. How dare they right?? Someone who is a fan of the Bandido umax will likely feel that they made this detector just to suit them instead. Who knows?

 

[DiggerDug]

Well ultimately the free markets will decide if the Outlaw is a winner or not. I have not used one so i can't say if it is a good detector. However for me the point of dissatisfaction with Tesoro is the feeling that as a customer my imput has been ignored. I have always liked and used Tesoro's. Yes I have tried others but always come back to them. I don't think the many detectorist that made suggestions to Tesoro about what features they would like are ignorant to the fact that it takes time and resources to produce a new unit. We are aware and have been very patient, I feel for several years. But at some point Tesoro would have to expect it's loyal customers to want something new. If you already can make a tone ID unit (Golden) and a deep unit (Cibola), then why after several years is it so hard to merge them both in to a detector that the masses have asked for? I will continue to use a Tesoro but as new technology is utilized by other companies the gap will continue to grow. If I go to buy a new truck I want just that, a 2012 model. Not a 2002 model with a new paint job and similar price. Just my 2 cents.

 

[dirt doctor]

There's going to be a lot of happy people who don't care about tones or screens and are looking for exactly what The Outlaw has to offer .This is major bang for the buck on a lightweight ,well built Tesoro and two extra " Hot coils" with rods besides . It wouldn't take that long for this baby to pay for itsef either . If I was presently in the market for another detector , I would jump on this .I think Tesoro's going to do really well with this detector .

 

[DiggerDug]

There's going to be a lot of happy people who don't care about tones or screens and are looking for exactly what The Outlaw has to offer .This is major bang for the buck on a lightweight ,well built Tesoro and two extra " Hot coils" with rods besides . It wouldn't take that long for this baby to pay for itsef either . If I was presently in the market for another detector , I would jump on this .I think Tesoro's going to do really well with this detector .

Not to correct you but Robert, "allcav" stated earlier it is not the Hot technology. The coils are 5 pin like a uMax.

 

[SkiWhiz]

There's going to be a lot of happy people who don't care about tones or screens and are looking for exactly what The Outlaw has to offer .This is major bang for the buck on a lightweight ,well built Tesoro and two extra " Hot coils" with rods besides . It wouldn't take that long for this baby to pay for itsef either . If I was presently in the market for another detector , I would jump on this .I think Tesoro's going to do really well with this detector .

I agree. I for one don't care for multi-tones and displays and if this new Tesoro gives a few more inches depth than its previous models it would make all my hunting area's like a new place.

 

[DiggerDug]

No disrespect to your opinion SkiWhiz, but how is a Tesoro detector that gets almost the depth a Cibola or Vaquero something new?

 

[dirt doctor]

There's going to be a lot of happy people who don't care about tones or screens and are looking for exactly what The Outlaw has to offer .This is major bang for the buck on a lightweight ,well built Tesoro and two extra " Hot coils" with rods besides . It wouldn't take that long for this baby to pay for itsef either . If I was presently in the market for another detector , I would jump on this .I think Tesoro's going to do really well with this detector .

Not to correct you but Robert, "allcav" stated earlier it is not the Hot technology. The coils are 5 pin like a uMax.

Thanks Digger Dug , my mistake , I misread an earlier post .I went: to edit it out after you corrected me but my time limit had run out .

 

[muconium]

I dunno, but there just MIGHT be the chance that us Tesoro-owners are misunderstanding Tesoro's marketing strategy? This machine seems to be aimed at the first-time buyer. Couple that with the fact that they came out with a video commercial not too long ago.

It's not about us, guys. It's about the un-tapped market of new MD buyers. Wouldn't you recommend The Outlaw to your buddy who wants a good detector (3 detectors, when you consider the coils) that he or she can grow in to? I would.

 

[Clad to be here]

muconium may have a point there.

 

[Habanero]

Yes, very interesting point....but at the cost of alienating your current customer base? Well, alienating is a bit harsh but I see his point with the new mder's but want to see the point, or the light rather, for the experience detectorist and Tesoro fan. Maybe it will go deeeep or something else that we don't know of yet. I would just like to see what they, Tesoro, has to say about where in the line up of their current detectors this one is supposed to fit. What niche does it fill? What itch does it scratch?

 

[thump7]

I really like what they did here!
It looks great, it has the

 

[Terry(Mi)]

Kinda hard to knock a unit when the full spec sheet has yet to be released... It appears some folks have jumped the gun and made assumptions regarding what this unit will or won't be.... What appears to be the most common misconception is that the outlaw is HOT technology, which if you read Roberts first posting it is actually "high gain". I've been an avid tesoro user since '95, and I'm happy to see tesoro release a unit with a manual GB, especially one that can be GB'd on the disc side of things. I hope to see more units like that. If the new plastics can decrease EMI presense, this alone could open up new layers of detecting, in certain areas... Ease up fellas and let's see what what shakes from the new offering... The proof is in the puddin', all will be told soon!

 

[Mike Hillis]

Sorry Marcomo. All the information I had to go on was Tesoro's test report, and that report said told me no ground balance in Disc mode. I kinda went off on it. Finally came out that it did have (or does now) have the ground balance functional in Disc mode.

I was hoping for something useful, not yet another single tone, thumb the disc dial discriminator.

What really made me sad was Tesoro's comment that, "it will pick up a quarter at 10 inches if the conditions are right" statement. That really depressed me. Its like they are not in the game at all and don't even realize it.

It was a sad day.

However all was not lost. Tesoro did give us something useful in the 10x12 widescan coil.

Mike

 

[oldcoon]

For serious detecting I will continue to use my Vaquero, and instead of wishing it had this feature or that feature, I will continue to strive to get absolute maximum performance out of Senor Cowboy.
Thank you one and all. You may resume this thread.