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Thank you everyone who ....

Richard-N-FL

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put their input into which Tesoro model to buy. I was almost set on the Vaquero but now it is between the Cibola or the Cortes. I am thinking I really want TID but not sure. So here is one more question for you pro's out there. Doe's the Cortes different audio responses to good and bad targets along with the TID? Like the Sovereign I took the ID off because the audio was really good and letting me know what was detected, by giving a different sound for higher conductive targets and lower or trash targets. If you can help me know how Tesoro's audio works then I think this will help me decide, Cibola or Cortes.

Thanks again everyone.
 
The Cortes does NOT have audio ID, all targets sound the same tone (frequency). But the ID screen will tell you what the target is. The Cortes also has a very strong, repeatable audio for good targets whereas junk targets tend to be erratic and inconsitant in the audio. You might get a good sound in the first pass but on the next it sounds broken up. I have been able to rely solely on audio, when I get a target that sounds good, I then look at the meter to see where it reads before I dig. But like any TID, very deep targets, targets that approach the capability limits of the machine, may not read very consistant at all. With these marginal targets there is just not enough data for the machine to register consistantly so you need to watch the depth reading and realize that iffy targets at great depths should be dug! Some times it helps to switch to All Metal (for a pinch more depth) and try to ID the target, also crank the sensitivity to the max and get the coil as close to the ground as possible. When applicable, I will scratch and inch of dirt away so I can get the coil a bit closer to a target, in the hopes of getting a little better ID info.
 
Thanks Scully...How much does the TID actually help your target to junk ratio? I am wondering if the extra $$$ is worth it between the Cibola and the Cortes.
 
With a beep and dig, you only have the audio with which to make your decision. Tesoro machines have good audio but even so, you dig a lot of signals that turn out to be junk. With a visual ID system you have a lot more information with which to make your decision to dig. Weak, questionable signals are some times passed by, but if you had a meter telling you its a 9" deep target, and its registering "coin", you would certainly investigate. Meters are not perfect and are not 100% accurate, but they do give you more information. Junk targets on the Cortes, typically have erratic ID data: ID numbers jump around, bar graph indicator also is erratic. When I first got my Cortes I dug all of those signals until I was convinced what the target was. I still dig a lot just to convince my self, but also because masking can have a similar effect. With a good target next to a bad target, the meter information will not be as clean. A good example is to sandwich a nickel with a dime. Scan it with the dime side towards the coil, then scan it with the nickel side towards the coil. What would you expect the meter to read? You probably thought what I thought: with nickel up you would get a strong nickel centered reading, or with the dime up a strong dime centered reading. I was surprised to that neither of those things occur. What you get is reading between those two target types, and it doesnt even indicate its a coin. The machine is seeing the conductivity of the "target". Now if you separate those targets a bit, which is common scenario, its a whole different ball game. By careful scanning and altering your sweep and stance, in some cases you can tell there are two separate targets there. This example is only to emphasize that masking of targets can radically alter what you see on the screen, so you need to be aware of that when deciding to dig, or not to dig. If you are primarily a coin hunter, ID has its advantages, it does give you more information, but you must use caution.
 
Yep, Scully knows his business...
 
Thanks alot Scully. I didn't want to spend nearly $700 for a new detector, but if it gets me the best coin detector available I will certainly do it.

Thanks again
 
You can buy a good used one for under 500.00 with two coils, there is one on ebay, I wish I had waited but I didn't so...

I bought a used one but I paid slightly more...

Oh well.

J
 
I have just gotten my Cortes and have only used it for about an hour. So far I am not greatly impressed. First off after using an F75 and a Tejon, it seem's really tame and mild. Second, I find that if I set the disc above iron it only chirps on a nickle laid on the ground. If I stop and hover over the nickel it will signal strong. It seem's to be a slow swinger like the Sovereign and that... I do not like.

I will use it some more today.

The multi tones are there in sum mode. I do like the way you can compare depth, tone, id number, bar graph, and graphics to help with TID. However, you may as well run in all-metal since it is one tone and does not signal well if you use the disc above iron. I'll try some more.

I need a smaller coil and should have one in a few days.

J
 
J,

Remember that ALL of the Tesoro discriminators are slow-motion designs.

If you hunt in a true all metal accept discriminate setting with an Eldorado or Tej
 
it will hit them well if I hover on it but if I swing over it, it will only chirp, unless I set the disc at minimum. I will check it out some more today.

I think maybe the F75 has spoiled me.

Thanks,

J
 
here are some that just sold plus one that is for sale without the extra coil

http://cgi.ebay.com/Tesoro-Cortes-Used-Metal-Detector-Extra-Coil_W0QQitemZ260156042653QQihZ016QQcategoryZ14955QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/TESORO-Cortes-Metal-Detector-MINT-USED-LESS-THAN-2-HRS_W0QQitemZ270165686708QQihZ017QQcategoryZ58057QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/Tesoro-Cortes-Metal-Detector-MINT_W0QQitemZ330165335823QQihZ014QQcategoryZ14955QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

J
 
odd that yours isn't signaling well.....mine seems to be just fine in that department on everything I could throw at it.

I agree that it isn't as fast as the tejon / vaquero, but its not bad...I've used much worse
 
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