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Tesoro v/s Minlab
- Thread starter Clev
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lovepulltabs
New member
What's a Torsore?
That's almost an impossible question to answer. What do you mean "just as good as?" Do they go as deep as the E-trac? The Tejon probably does in good ground. Do they discriminate out junk as well? Tesoro's have very good discrimination, but they don't have as much technology involved.
Comparing a Tesoro to an E-trac is like apples to oranges. The E-trac is a $1500 piece of technology. Tesoro's are cheaper and lighter, but still find great stuff in the ground.
Comparing a Tesoro to an E-trac is like apples to oranges. The E-trac is a $1500 piece of technology. Tesoro's are cheaper and lighter, but still find great stuff in the ground.
Mark ( ohio )
Well-known member
I had to look twice.. Thought it said sore toe.. OUCH!!
I've never used the E-Trac but I have the other Explorers.
I guess we can state our opinions here, right?
Okay, here it goes. I've owned several Minelab machines including a Sovereign GT, Explorer XS, Explorer II, and Explorer SE. Personally I never saw the Explorers as super deep as everyone seems to be saying. I did see the Excalibur and Sovereign GT as super deep. I think the Explorers are highly over rated in the area of depth. The Sovereign GT is very much underrated.
The beauty of the Explorer is its excellent data processing abilities to sort through trash and find good targets. Many times I've taken my sweet XS (I like it better than the new models) and cleaned up on shallow masked coins. That is, coins down to about 5 inches deep. In this area the Explorer is better than the GT.
But when it comes to depth the Sovereign GT and Excalibur beat the Explorer hands down. I'm not sure why except that maybe so much of the machine's power goes into the data processing of signals that that takes from its raw depth?
But over the past 3 years I haven't dug any good items deeper than about 6 inches deep with my Explorers. Switching to the GT at these same sites I dig lots of wheats and Indian head cents at 6-8 inches deep. But again, the GT is not as good as the Explorer for pulling coins out of trash.
If one watches the YouTube hunts closely one will often see that when the hunter is using an Explorer the small nonferrous targets are usually shallow. Sorry, but I never saw the Explorer as deep. The GT, yes!
Now the Tejon. The Tejon with stock coil is as deep as the GT and about 10 times more fun to use. The Tejon with 12x10 widescan coil is a killer on deep coins, rings, and relics, even in hostile soils. When it comes to finding the deep good stuff it's so superior to the Explorers, Nautilus , F-75, etc., machines it's not worth even commenting on.
By the way, if you hunt by large powerlines don't buy the F-75 or F-70. They go nuts in these heavy power locations and they're lousy at high trash sites. Expect to see lots of these for sale after the present big rush wares off.
I guess we can state our opinions here, right?
Okay, here it goes. I've owned several Minelab machines including a Sovereign GT, Explorer XS, Explorer II, and Explorer SE. Personally I never saw the Explorers as super deep as everyone seems to be saying. I did see the Excalibur and Sovereign GT as super deep. I think the Explorers are highly over rated in the area of depth. The Sovereign GT is very much underrated.
The beauty of the Explorer is its excellent data processing abilities to sort through trash and find good targets. Many times I've taken my sweet XS (I like it better than the new models) and cleaned up on shallow masked coins. That is, coins down to about 5 inches deep. In this area the Explorer is better than the GT.
But when it comes to depth the Sovereign GT and Excalibur beat the Explorer hands down. I'm not sure why except that maybe so much of the machine's power goes into the data processing of signals that that takes from its raw depth?
But over the past 3 years I haven't dug any good items deeper than about 6 inches deep with my Explorers. Switching to the GT at these same sites I dig lots of wheats and Indian head cents at 6-8 inches deep. But again, the GT is not as good as the Explorer for pulling coins out of trash.
If one watches the YouTube hunts closely one will often see that when the hunter is using an Explorer the small nonferrous targets are usually shallow. Sorry, but I never saw the Explorer as deep. The GT, yes!
Now the Tejon. The Tejon with stock coil is as deep as the GT and about 10 times more fun to use. The Tejon with 12x10 widescan coil is a killer on deep coins, rings, and relics, even in hostile soils. When it comes to finding the deep good stuff it's so superior to the Explorers, Nautilus , F-75, etc., machines it's not worth even commenting on.
By the way, if you hunt by large powerlines don't buy the F-75 or F-70. They go nuts in these heavy power locations and they're lousy at high trash sites. Expect to see lots of these for sale after the present big rush wares off.
bulletman
Well-known member
Tesoro in my opinion is a well kept secret among those who truly use them. Compared to any other detectors out there (including those with displays), tesoro is superior at target seperation, depth, ease of use, and doesn't weigh a ton. Hunt with a five pound detector for 5 hours and you can hardly lift your arm due to tennis elbow and shoulder problems. Most tesoros weigh around 2.5 pounds - that's half the weight, making your hunt more enjoyable - and you can hunt much longer. The longer you hunt - the more likely it is that you will find the goodies. Also, I am not too keen on the new digital models out there - analog shines when it comes to the tones and sounds that the analog circuitry sends to your ears.
I do own a Minelab X-terra. I purchased it primarily due to it's light weight compard to the explorers weight. It is a nice machine, and I do hunt with it occasionally. However, I usually pick up one of my tesoro's - they are just a pleasure to hunt with. I truly hope that tesoro will be around for some time considering that they are one of the few companies who produce analog circuitry.
I do own a Minelab X-terra. I purchased it primarily due to it's light weight compard to the explorers weight. It is a nice machine, and I do hunt with it occasionally. However, I usually pick up one of my tesoro's - they are just a pleasure to hunt with. I truly hope that tesoro will be around for some time considering that they are one of the few companies who produce analog circuitry.
Every time someone starts comparing one brand to another it usually sparks some heated discussion. In the past few years I've used several Tesoros and now have a Tejon. Of which I'm a big fan. They make a top of the line product and their customer service is second to none. Minelab has made some changes in the past few years I didn't like. One is they started making detectors in Malaysia. I'm not a big fan of their customer service either. But I have to come to Tfor2's defence. I've owned some of the same detectors and had similar experience. If you have any doubt that the Minelabs wont hunt, take a casual stroll thru the explorer forum and look at the finds. Then compare them with what you see on the rest of the forums.
The key is "LEARN YOUR DETECTOR" It doesn't matter if you have a $1500 or a $250 detector if you do not know how to use it. Check out the features and decide what you want, wether a screen with read out, buttons to change settings or simplicity with nobs, etc... Both manufacturers make good detectors and need time to learn. Miss the target with any detector by an inch and it's there for the next person anyway.
It was not my intent to start a p****n match. In fact, in scrolling through the forums I noted quite a few comments on the Tesoro forum and decided to see what was taking place. I thought perhaps they had a new detector coming out since they hadn't had one for quite a while. Anyway, when I saw t for 2's comments regarding the F 75, of which I have, as well as the F 75 LTD and up to just recently a T 2, I just couldn't let that comment pass. The fact is, the F 75 is one of the more highly touted detectors out for hunting trashy sites. I personally can attest to its merits. As far as hunting near power lines, this can be a problem at times do to the F 75's high sensitivity. However, for the experienced user, there are a number of things that can be done to quiet it down and it will still get good depth and great target separation. Like we all know, what ever detector one is using, the key for success is to simply learn it well. HH jim tn
I have my reasons why I have the Tejon, Explorer-II, F-75, and V3, then I have others. I'm finding lately that I'm not using the Explorer-II as much as I used do to the weight/balance factor. I have to admit that it has got me some of my deep silver. It needs to be worked slow which is an advantage as far as I'm concerned. Too many folks go to fast and I was left behind but digging up silver they missed. Some of the folks I hunted with, I just couldn't get them to slow down, or they couldn't get themselves to slow down - they always seem to be in some big hurry getting from point A to point B. I see nothing wrong with the Explorer, it's just I'm learning to appreciate lighter weight and better balanced detectors. I want to go out and have a good time and being able to swing a detector all afternoon sometimes comes into the equation. But worked right, that Explorer can sniff deep silver well.
On one of my favorite relic spots, I bought the Tejon to give it a try because the Explorer was giving me fits in the better part of the area, although I tried smaller coils and settings. A friend was having a tough time also with his SE. So when I took and tried the Tejon there and with the 5.75 coil, it was like it opened up a new opportunity and I was digging up would I couldn't get before. I was also impressed on digging up tiny deep stuff. But the Tejon got me in there to the area I couldn't hunt well before so that sold me on it's first outing with it.
Then it lead me to the F-75. What more can I say. It's light and I can swing it all day also. Deep and fast recovery. So the times I want to use the display, although I mainly go by audio, it opens up a new & different detector for my likings. Although I have been pondering the idea about the LTD, it's not to say anything negative about the F-75. I haven't made a firm decision about it yet. I had to add the smaller also but I generally do that for all my detectors with the exception on the Compadre which comes hardwired already with a smaller coil (5.75).
Now the V3 - I haven't learned much about it yet but that's only because I haven't used it as much because it's my newest detector. I found the new features interesting and although I hunt by audio mainly, when I do try and use the screen display on a machine to add afterward, the V3 just has something different. Even though the display is in color but wasn't important, it is a nice feature. I have 4 vehicles and a couple motorcycles and they all get me to work and back just fine, but they are different in each of their own.
Although the V3 is my newest, I find when I'm out to have fun and in no hurry, the display features are interesting and the V3 has loads of features all around. I probably won't use most of the programs but they are there for times I want to explorer it's capabilities. Being that feature loaded, it add to a fun factor for me. But my Compadre and Silver uMax is a fun factor also for being so simplistic but effective, each in a different way.
And I really like the wireless headphones that came with the V3.
There is something I like about each of the detectors I talked about and look at the cost factor from the Compadre on up, yet I won't let my Compadre sit and collect dust. It's usually my most grabbed and used for local fast turn on and go hunts along with the Silver uMax. It's also a keeper just as well as a few upper end detectors I have. My first Tesoro is the Cibola so it goes to show I move both up and down as far as my Tesoro line.
Well I generally don't type this much so I'm off to another coffee break then I can take care of a few things and maybe get some detecting later this afternoon depending on weather and how I feel.
On one of my favorite relic spots, I bought the Tejon to give it a try because the Explorer was giving me fits in the better part of the area, although I tried smaller coils and settings. A friend was having a tough time also with his SE. So when I took and tried the Tejon there and with the 5.75 coil, it was like it opened up a new opportunity and I was digging up would I couldn't get before. I was also impressed on digging up tiny deep stuff. But the Tejon got me in there to the area I couldn't hunt well before so that sold me on it's first outing with it.
Then it lead me to the F-75. What more can I say. It's light and I can swing it all day also. Deep and fast recovery. So the times I want to use the display, although I mainly go by audio, it opens up a new & different detector for my likings. Although I have been pondering the idea about the LTD, it's not to say anything negative about the F-75. I haven't made a firm decision about it yet. I had to add the smaller also but I generally do that for all my detectors with the exception on the Compadre which comes hardwired already with a smaller coil (5.75).
Now the V3 - I haven't learned much about it yet but that's only because I haven't used it as much because it's my newest detector. I found the new features interesting and although I hunt by audio mainly, when I do try and use the screen display on a machine to add afterward, the V3 just has something different. Even though the display is in color but wasn't important, it is a nice feature. I have 4 vehicles and a couple motorcycles and they all get me to work and back just fine, but they are different in each of their own.
Although the V3 is my newest, I find when I'm out to have fun and in no hurry, the display features are interesting and the V3 has loads of features all around. I probably won't use most of the programs but they are there for times I want to explorer it's capabilities. Being that feature loaded, it add to a fun factor for me. But my Compadre and Silver uMax is a fun factor also for being so simplistic but effective, each in a different way.
And I really like the wireless headphones that came with the V3.
There is something I like about each of the detectors I talked about and look at the cost factor from the Compadre on up, yet I won't let my Compadre sit and collect dust. It's usually my most grabbed and used for local fast turn on and go hunts along with the Silver uMax. It's also a keeper just as well as a few upper end detectors I have. My first Tesoro is the Cibola so it goes to show I move both up and down as far as my Tesoro line.
Well I generally don't type this much so I'm off to another coffee break then I can take care of a few things and maybe get some detecting later this afternoon depending on weather and how I feel.
I'll admit I shouldn't have been so blunt. People have feelings and sometimes I forget that.
I don't back down from what I wrote only I shouldn't have been so blunt about it I guess.
See I'm still rather ticked at the dealer who sold me that______ thing. I lost a lot of money on it.
I traded it to Richard for a new Tesoro Tejon and what a relief. I wouldn't sell it to anyone on ebay or the classifieds. I figured a dealer can handle the buyer and I'm off the hook.
I'd stand with the Fisher 1265,66,70, all the way. Fisher has made some great machines in the past.
As for the F-75. if one does buy one, usually a sensitivity setting of about 65 and discrimination of about 15 works the best. Use factory preset with 2 tones.
The F-75 will hunt in open fields and CW sites at excellent depth. Where it gets into trouble is in electrical areas and house sites where the soil has iron rust and all the stuff left from houses that burned down in the past (the sort of places I hunt). The only thing one can do at these sites is turn the sensitivity way down until the F-75 stops falsing. At my sites the Silver uMax works far better than the F-75.
But this is what I found and who am I but just one person. Could I be wrong? heck, ask my wife.
Don't believe my comment? Fine, order your F-75 today and help the economy.
I don't back down from what I wrote only I shouldn't have been so blunt about it I guess.
See I'm still rather ticked at the dealer who sold me that______ thing. I lost a lot of money on it.
I traded it to Richard for a new Tesoro Tejon and what a relief. I wouldn't sell it to anyone on ebay or the classifieds. I figured a dealer can handle the buyer and I'm off the hook.
I'd stand with the Fisher 1265,66,70, all the way. Fisher has made some great machines in the past.
As for the F-75. if one does buy one, usually a sensitivity setting of about 65 and discrimination of about 15 works the best. Use factory preset with 2 tones.
The F-75 will hunt in open fields and CW sites at excellent depth. Where it gets into trouble is in electrical areas and house sites where the soil has iron rust and all the stuff left from houses that burned down in the past (the sort of places I hunt). The only thing one can do at these sites is turn the sensitivity way down until the F-75 stops falsing. At my sites the Silver uMax works far better than the F-75.
But this is what I found and who am I but just one person. Could I be wrong? heck, ask my wife.
Don't believe my comment? Fine, order your F-75 today and help the economy.
Actually I've been curious about the F-75. I had a 1265 for years and found a lot of stuff with. I'm guessing the f-75 is sorta hot natured but so was the tejon before I got used to it. One issue I've got with the sovereign is the weight. Mine is a hefty 6 lbs. It's not as fun to swing it as it used to be.
I purchased an F70 last year depth was no problem but target ID was not very good. It jumped from good too bad and back and forth like alot of the whites do. Having a detector without a guage is no problem I just wanted to try another hound. So I sold it and bought a vaquero last week. It's funny sometimes the older detectors are better than the new ones. I had a whites 5900 DI pro sl and when i hit a target 90% of the time it didn't jump all over the place but the new whites Id's seem to go crazy some hits -4 swing again +70 jumping all over the place. Some folks would sale well just dig it. And I would agree my problem with this is paying big bucks for something that really is not that reliable. I had a fisher 1266X which was very good at ID without the guage but wasn't that great on detecting small brass like buttons. but bullets it was a killer! Doing an air test on my vaquero I was very impressed! Buttons were picking up at about 14 inches from coil and a brass buckle was picking up around 2 feet! So when all this snow melts I'm hitting the fields.
