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Tesoro Tejon

I have a like new Tejon that I have had for two years and never sent in the registration, I used the detector twice but not the coil...I placed the unit on my Vaquero coil. It works great and still has the original batteries, still in the original box. What is this worth?? I am thinking about selling it outright and then purchasing a Golden when they become available.
 
The warranty is only to the original owner, even though you never sent the registration card in.
Next,
How did you use it without its coil? or are you saying that when you got the Tejon you mounted your Vaquero coil on it?

I will say that a very nice Used Tejon may get as much as $400.00 with a single coil package.
I've seen good ones go anywhere from $325.00 to $375.00

Also, if those batteries have been in it for two years you better open up the battery compartment and check to make sure none of the batteries are leaking.

Mark
 
For what its worth especially with Tesoro's the coil is tuned to the unit.....when sent from the factory....
 
Dan, on the Tesoro models like the,
Tejon,
Vaquero,
and a few others the coils are quick change and people are buying extra coils, or I should say different size coils as accessories and not getting them tuned.
Are you saying that when we buy a coil for these models that the detector and the coil should be sent back to the factory and tuned for this new coil, if so then the original coil would no longer be tuned. So that would mean that these models really don't have quick change coils at all.

Mark
 
Sorry but would have to diagree somewhat on this That is why the Tejon, Vaquero, and certain other Tesoros have manual Ground Balance to help different coil substutions JMHO
 
I had a friend call Tesoro to send in his Lobo ST, And wanted a new coil. Tesoro told him they would fix the pinpoint on it and turn the new coil for a good price. So there must be something to it or Tesoro would not say that. Flintstone
 
Hi underwatermetalman, I may stand to be corrected, but would venture to say that your Tejon is in the 4-5 hundred $ range, and that the warranty , will prove to be good for whoever happens to be the one that sends it in to Tesoro for maint. . or repairs, regardless of signed /unsigned warranty card, unless it is evident of abuse to the machine. Many years of that fact has been established by many past and present Tesoro users and no reason for anyone to dispute those facts. They speak for themselves! As for the coil swaps, my understanding, and I believe also along with many other Tesoro users, is that many(not all) Tesoros, due to their particular makeup of components being compatible with one another allows many of them "multiple" coil swaps with good success and no need for any particular "coil- to -machine" tune process. HOWEVER, if you so choose too, you may have a particular coil tuned to whatever machine it is compatible with for "optimum" performance. Just send it to Tesoro and they will do the tune. Most folks like the advantage of being able to make the different swaps so as to fit whatever the different types of sites they hunt etc. Of course, that advantage disappears somewhat with the one coil /machine tune process. Some folks chose it but I believe most folks prefer the multiple coil swaps Hope that didn't muddy the water for anyone, but that is pretty much the way it has been for a long while now the way I see it.. HH, Charlie
 
This coil subject has created more misinformation than any other Tesoro subject.We were always told if the detector has a manual ground balance you can swap coils.That would be a waist to have the detector tuned for one coil in my opinion.I have a fixed ground balance on the new tone Golden umax and i have used six different coils on this detector with great results.I would never send a detector in to be tuned to one coil.And to be right theoretically you would have to tune the coil to box of your soil.This is a waist of time.Yes,people used to mail a box of soil to Tesoro .This madness needs to stop.I say if the pin fits,put in on and go with it.If you want lots of depth,get a Vaquero or a Tejon.
 
I have to agree with SpiritRelic on this if it has a manual GB you are tuning the coil to your soil conditions and don't need to send it in!! If you have a fixed GB you will rack up some shipping fees sending it back and forth to Tesoro everytime you change coils cause they do nothing with the coil at all they adjust is your internal GB control to get maximum air test performance and the last time I heard the that air test results aren't going to be what you will get in the ground. It's all determined by your soil conditions!
 
Coils being tuned (or designed) to be "in-spec" Vs tuning a coil-and-detector together. New
Posted by: Monte [ Send a Message ]
Date: November 25, 2012 06:19PM
Registered: 8 years ago
Posts: 4,777
Search coils can be 'tuned' within certain specifications. By design, some manufacturers have a little "sloppier" tuning allowances while other coils follow a much tighter or more controlled set of 'specs.' In the internal winding alignments is out-of-whack, the coil can easily fail to perform well, or at all. The same applies to failure with any internal electronic components in the search coil. Dropping a search coil on a hard surface, smacking it hard against a tree or rock, or even some cases of temperature extremes can cause misalignment's or make a coil fail.

So, each manufacturer has their own design criteria to follow in their coil design allowances in order for them to work with the manufacturers detector circuitry design and operating frequencies.

Most manufacturers check a detector and coil combo and make sure they ought to be compatible before shipping, and then they are off to get boxed up as a checked-and-tuned pair (detector and coil). In this case, the detector itself has to pass the test to make sure it functions properly, and is then checked with the assigned search coil. If it is a factory preset GB model, then they set the GB to their desired spec with that coil to work in their determined level of iron mineralization.

Unfortunately, we face several challenges with this type of design, such as the following.:

a.. We trust that the detector and coil are each functioning within 'spec.'
b.. We trust that the factory-set Ground Balance will provide good functional performance in BOTH the All Metal mode AND Discriminate mode.
c.. We have to hope that, by design, the Disc. and All Metal modes function well with a similar GB setting.
d.. We also hope the manufacturer has provided and internal GB trimmer that a savvy detectorist can easily adjust to tweak the detector for peak performance in radically different ground than what the factory set-up instructions will handle.

The next thing that we could benefit from is having an assortment of search coils that share very 'tight specs' which lets them be highly functional on an assortment of metal detectors designed to operate withing their design criteria. With some makes of coils, they see to have a little more 'slop' in their design and at times that can mean too much variance from a tight design specification. Due to the variables in detector and coil design, and having used a LOT of detectors in my 48 years of detecting, and being a multi-line dealer most of the time since '77, I have found the following to be true.

1.. With some brands, I can try maybe 10 search coils on the same detector, even the same size coil, and I am able to set the Ground Balance and have the detector work. However, I might notice a pronounced difference in the perceived performance between one or more search coils of similar size and type. They work, and they are not noisy or erratic, but some might seem a bit 'hotter' and others are perhaps a little weaker performing.

2.. With some brands, they have very tight specifications for the search coils as well as specific operating frequency that is crystal controlled or otherwise established at a tight setting. Equally, their search coils have a very rigid specification design. If I switch an assortment of search coils around I might have one of two things happen. They all work, work well, and are not noisy, or there might be a coil or two that doesn't seem to perform well and the operation is unstable. Usually, this is a case where the coil is just "out-of-spec" and even adjusting the GB will not result in proper performance.

In the end, regardless of the brand of detector and coil we choose to use, we need to make sure they are a quality-built product and then learn them and know their strengths and weaknesses. There is no such thing as a 'perfect' detector so we have to appreciate each detector we chose to use for its abilities for our needs, then learn and know how to get the most out of it. When it comes to Tesoro models, I have reached the following conclusion, all based upon the facts that I most often hunt in moderate-high to very-high iron mineralized sites.

I know that:

A.. I do not like, and haven't had good performance in a variety of ground environments with, the Cort
 
I just received my 2 pre-owned Silver Sabre's back from Tesoro and just paid for shipping...For those who still think that they still have to pay for repairs, Wrong.
 
88junior said:
......all they adjust is your internal GB control to get maximum air test performance


Not entirely right, just to calrify a bit so folks don't adjust the inside GB trimmer with a coin for max. air test.
For those Tesoro models with fixed ground balance.
Tesoro adjusts the GB to a piece of ferrite for average performance for most soil conditions.
To correctly adjust the GB for your soil , you would bob the coil up and down over your soil and manually adjust the GB trimmer pot inside
to get correct ground balance the same way as if you had external control. You will also need to know, trimmer adjustment must be done in micro adjustments.
Internal trimmer pots on some model detectors only have a small window of adjustment over the 290 degree turnablilty of the pot. Maybe from 10 o'clock to 2 o'clock.
 
Thanks for clearing that up Sven so pretty well in order to get the detectors GB right you need to do it yourself for your personal soil conditions. Is that why some people send in a sample of their soil along with detector to have Tesoro adjust it to their ground minerals?
 
88junior said:
Thanks for clearing that up Sven so pretty well in order to get the detectors GB right you need to do it yourself for your personal soil conditions. Is that why some people send in a sample of their soil along with detector to have Tesoro adjust it to their ground minerals?

Pretty much but, doubt a soil sample will be of much help unless you send them about a 15" cubic square sample.
 
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