Hey Tab, One think I'm noticing the last several days is maybe i'm running the Outlaw to high on sens too. I usually have her around the 9oclock position but think it's just to much gain for typical general hunting in a park setting. With all of the junk in the ground i think it "see's " too much at once if that makes any sense. I'm having a little better luck with the coins with my sense around 3/4 max. I did hit the woods yesterday for a bit and tried running supertuned since there was no junk. You can dig 9" with the 8" coil this way and recover 22 shells that sound like a penny at 4"! I put the shell back in hole and then pulled one the many beaver tails i had in my pocket and placed it 4" to the side of the hole and roughly 4" deep. So a pull tab 4" deep and a 22 shell around 8"/9" deep. While discing the pulltab, not a peep on the shell. It was either masked by the pull tab or lost it's depth by the time I disc'd high enough to loose the tab. I then ran all metal thresh and dug to china for a piece of flat thin copprr the size of my pinky nail. It has the depth, it just needs good trash free ground to get to it. More testing to come