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tesoro compadre v's bounty hunter tracker 4...
- Thread starter peter-d
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I have not used a Tracker IV but I did have a Quick Draw II, which is more expensive than the Tracker IV.
The BH was a coin magnet. But I found it difficult to find medium size gold with the BH and impossible to find small gold items like womens rings, ear rings, small pendants and so on.
I prefer to find gold. Small gold items have gem stones. That's what I want. Gold and gem stones. I gave the BH away to BIG Brothers. I sold my Garrett GTAx 500 for the same reason I got rid of the BH.
I now have a Euro Sabre, Eldorado, Silver Sabre uMax and a Compadre. I just bought the Eldorado and Compadre on a two detector sale on eBay in December and didn't try the Compadre until January. The Comapdre is now my go to machine for finding gold jewelry. Don't need a lot of depth for that and the Compadre is the best I have to find gold.
The Compadre and the QD II have semilar depth.
The Compadre has a hard wired coil and can't be changed. Some people find that a disadvantage. But it has the best coil for hunting gold jewelry.
I use my Euro for hunting artifacts and relics where I can use extra depth and manual ground balance. It's great in other areas too. The Silver is a park hound. The Compadre is the king of the tot lots around here as far as I'm concerned.
HH,
The BH was a coin magnet. But I found it difficult to find medium size gold with the BH and impossible to find small gold items like womens rings, ear rings, small pendants and so on.
I prefer to find gold. Small gold items have gem stones. That's what I want. Gold and gem stones. I gave the BH away to BIG Brothers. I sold my Garrett GTAx 500 for the same reason I got rid of the BH.
I now have a Euro Sabre, Eldorado, Silver Sabre uMax and a Compadre. I just bought the Eldorado and Compadre on a two detector sale on eBay in December and didn't try the Compadre until January. The Comapdre is now my go to machine for finding gold jewelry. Don't need a lot of depth for that and the Compadre is the best I have to find gold.
The Compadre and the QD II have semilar depth.
The Compadre has a hard wired coil and can't be changed. Some people find that a disadvantage. But it has the best coil for hunting gold jewelry.
I use my Euro for hunting artifacts and relics where I can use extra depth and manual ground balance. It's great in other areas too. The Silver is a park hound. The Compadre is the king of the tot lots around here as far as I'm concerned.
HH,
To show you what I mean about the Compadre, here's my loot form yesterday's hunt. One hour in one a less productive spot and then about 2 1/2 or 3 hours in another more productive tot lot. I found a 14k gold ear ring and what looks like a small ruby. I found two bracelets and a few other items.
Look for your self. Here's my post from yesterday.
http://www.findmall.com/read.php?17,654208,654208#msg-654208
Hope that helps. You can pay me a 5% commission when you make your first million. lol
HH,
Look for your self. Here's my post from yesterday.
http://www.findmall.com/read.php?17,654208,654208#msg-654208
Hope that helps. You can pay me a 5% commission when you make your first million. lol
HH,
I had two Tracker IV's, a used one I got in a trade and a new one I won in a contest on the Bounty Hunter forum. Neither compared well to the Compadre, or to the older Amigo II model that was the Compadre's electronics with a different housing/pole setup. Compadre's are super lightweight with much better construction quality, are more comfortable and less tiring to use, and they have a lifetime warranty. Performance wise, the Compadres were deeper on all targets, regardless of conductivity range, whether it be one with the 7 inch coil or the later Compadre with 5.75 inch coil. Target separation in trash was bad to non-exsistent on the Tracker's, Compadre's have excellent target separation and fast response regardless of which coil model is used. Compadre's sensitivity to small gold jewelry is excellent, giving it the ability to find really small gold the Trackers can't detect at all. I'm not knocking the Tracker IV's, I enjoyed playing around with them and they had a couple of neat features for hunting shallow coins. That was the auto notch setting and the dual audio tones, but quality and performance wise the Compadre is a hands down winner.
Actually, the Compadre coil can be changed. Relatively simple to do, even to add connectors to make it easy to change coils, but it does void the warranty. I wouldn't advise anyone to do so, but if anyone wants to give it a try the link is to instructions written by Ralph Bryant a few years ago..
Changing Coils
Changing Coils
Now that's neat - the Compadre I recently got has the newer 5.75 coil
Besides the older 7 inch coil, this makes me wonder out of folks who have done this mod, what coils they like with the Compadre and what kind of success they are getting. I think the 5.75 is a good coil, but this has me wondering.
Besides the older 7 inch coil, this makes me wonder out of folks who have done this mod, what coils they like with the Compadre and what kind of success they are getting. I think the 5.75 is a good coil, but this has me wondering.
Ralph and a few others put the 4" coil on Compadres for those very trashy areas. If the 4" coil will do better in trash than the 5.75 then it would be awesome. Mr Bill can do the mod to add sensitivity, coil connector and maybe GB but that would cost as much as the detector, I guess.
The BH was unstable when trying to get any depth. In trashy areas where you look for jewelry it is frustrating to try to distinguish targets except higher conductive coins(Not nickels and rings). Besides you won't get a hit on small jewelry at all.
The Compadre is silent search. It gets it's depth with ease. No back talk just targets. That makes hunting so much more enjoyable and productive. It is very sensitive and expressive. If you have quality headphones it is easy to distinguish targets and make a determination to dig or not. Depth is obvious by sound. the deeper the target the softer the sound. I can even tell if a tiny target is shallow. It will respond to a very small targets at surprising depth. No need for a depth indicator.
The answer is yes. It hits on coins better. But BH only comes close on higher conductive coins.
For treasure hunting. Yes. No contest.
Australian conditions, I don't know about. But Monte said it worked very well in the worst conditions. He is a pro and uses metal detectors in some of the more challenging conditions around
HH,
The Compadre is silent search. It gets it's depth with ease. No back talk just targets. That makes hunting so much more enjoyable and productive. It is very sensitive and expressive. If you have quality headphones it is easy to distinguish targets and make a determination to dig or not. Depth is obvious by sound. the deeper the target the softer the sound. I can even tell if a tiny target is shallow. It will respond to a very small targets at surprising depth. No need for a depth indicator.
The answer is yes. It hits on coins better. But BH only comes close on higher conductive coins.
For treasure hunting. Yes. No contest.
Australian conditions, I don't know about. But Monte said it worked very well in the worst conditions. He is a pro and uses metal detectors in some of the more challenging conditions around
HH,
The 4 inch is what I was kind of thinking about, but having the ability to change coils my be handy at times.
I have a couple spots along and in streams where some of it is trashy, brushy, rocky and at times have steep banks. A few old swimming holes are in the mix also. Some of it can be a bit rough to work but I have found a good bit of silver, buffs, wheat's and misc stuff of all kinds. I usually wore hip boots and worked from the stream edges. I think these spots were a magnet for kids years ago. Signs of trails lead in, through and out these areas, and I see signs of ropes that were tied to the old oak tree branches where I think they swung from the bank edges over swimming holes, and what looks like remains of tree houses. The places are overgrown now, but is obvious from the signs and previous detecting hunts. There is also a few signs of foundations of some type of dwellings a few hundred yards away that I have some goodies, and some old silverware along the stream straight from the foundations.
I'm going to plan on a Compadre run in these areas with the 5.75 coil. The streams are over flowing now due to repeated rain storms. Some areas can be slippery and steep along the banks, and if I accidentally have a machine roll into the water, it would be a much less heart ache to replace the Compadre compared to some high dollar machines. Of course I try and not let a machine roll into the drink, but I have had several close calls in the past. Up on the banks there are lots of downed trees making it tough in some parts. So I make it a kind of a routine habit driving by these areas keeping my eye on them and have never seen anyone else in there. I worked these areas hard years ago but I know I missed some good silver. I'm waiting for the flood conditions to hopefully move some of the brush and trees and maybe allow me to find more goodies.
I found it so trashy under some of the old trees - I think the Compadre later on is worth a swing under them, along the trails and the streams. I think the smaller the coil, the easier it would be to work these areas.
So the Compadre with swappable coils been spinning my gears, and it's been nearly two years since I swung a coil in these areas. I think soon I'll be ready to give it another run. - Just a thought....
I have a couple spots along and in streams where some of it is trashy, brushy, rocky and at times have steep banks. A few old swimming holes are in the mix also. Some of it can be a bit rough to work but I have found a good bit of silver, buffs, wheat's and misc stuff of all kinds. I usually wore hip boots and worked from the stream edges. I think these spots were a magnet for kids years ago. Signs of trails lead in, through and out these areas, and I see signs of ropes that were tied to the old oak tree branches where I think they swung from the bank edges over swimming holes, and what looks like remains of tree houses. The places are overgrown now, but is obvious from the signs and previous detecting hunts. There is also a few signs of foundations of some type of dwellings a few hundred yards away that I have some goodies, and some old silverware along the stream straight from the foundations.
I'm going to plan on a Compadre run in these areas with the 5.75 coil. The streams are over flowing now due to repeated rain storms. Some areas can be slippery and steep along the banks, and if I accidentally have a machine roll into the water, it would be a much less heart ache to replace the Compadre compared to some high dollar machines. Of course I try and not let a machine roll into the drink, but I have had several close calls in the past. Up on the banks there are lots of downed trees making it tough in some parts. So I make it a kind of a routine habit driving by these areas keeping my eye on them and have never seen anyone else in there. I worked these areas hard years ago but I know I missed some good silver. I'm waiting for the flood conditions to hopefully move some of the brush and trees and maybe allow me to find more goodies.
I found it so trashy under some of the old trees - I think the Compadre later on is worth a swing under them, along the trails and the streams. I think the smaller the coil, the easier it would be to work these areas.
So the Compadre with swappable coils been spinning my gears, and it's been nearly two years since I swung a coil in these areas. I think soon I'll be ready to give it another run. - Just a thought....
This IS getting more interesting...
I've been surface mining for recent drops using my sabre with the CS.
Nothing over 4".
Thanks for the encouragement on swapping coils on the Compadre.
If a 5.75 or a 4" will work on the Compadre's 12khz, perhaps the CS will, also.
And what of the 12x10 ?
If you are prepared to 'dig em all', why not?
Nothing was mentioned in the mod about a need to make adjustments to a trimmer cap for tuning different coils...
Even though relatively low power, there must be some sort of tuning required for optimal performance, like vswr in ham radios.
Efficiency drops off, but I know you can load a fencepost or clothesline wire with a good tuner.
Maybe time to buy another O-scope...
Aw heck. I should be over in mods, anyway...
I've been surface mining for recent drops using my sabre with the CS.
Nothing over 4".
Thanks for the encouragement on swapping coils on the Compadre.
If a 5.75 or a 4" will work on the Compadre's 12khz, perhaps the CS will, also.
And what of the 12x10 ?
If you are prepared to 'dig em all', why not?
Nothing was mentioned in the mod about a need to make adjustments to a trimmer cap for tuning different coils...
Even though relatively low power, there must be some sort of tuning required for optimal performance, like vswr in ham radios.
Efficiency drops off, but I know you can load a fencepost or clothesline wire with a good tuner.
Maybe time to buy another O-scope...
Aw heck. I should be over in mods, anyway...
digitaltim
New member
While the BH is are a cheap way to metal detect, the amount of garbage you will dig isn't worth the savings. The discrimination of the compadre is far superior.
You'll be much more successful and confident with the tesoro.
You'll be much more successful and confident with the tesoro.