Tesoro - against something that belongs in the can

[tab-nabit]

Had a friend stopped by real quick to show me his detector he got for x-mas. He knew I was into detecting but never went along, now all a sudden he gets this off brand detector and is all in hyper mode to go detecting with me tomorrow. I tell him tomorrow will depend on weather, other things to take care of, and mostly if I'm up to it. He had to go but wanted me to I guess, drool over what I feel was a real piece of cheap junk on his way to go get dinner, and says he will be waiting for my call.
I don't like knocking against detectors but I think this was like a Toys'R'Us cheap toy. And I don't want to try and make a fella feel bad, but he is so hyped I don't think he is going to sleep tonight. The coil cord was plugged in and not a single wrap around the shaft. The slack was bundled with a twisty tie wrap, well, some of the slack. The coil cord connector was like an old RCA connector. I try to tell him about the slack and he says that's how it shows on the picture on the box.
So he sees my Compadre and Silver uMax sitting against the wall by the door, ready to go maybe tomorrow, and says if I wanted to, that he would let me try out his detector but he didn't want to try any of that crap (looking at the Compadre & Silver uMax). I'm believing he is saying this because as I'm playing with his detector while sitting on the couch, I'm getting some audio out of his, and his has more knobs and a meter - an intensity type of meter, and his is new.
The thing is, I'm barely getting some audio with a quarter at about 2 inches and only near the coil center, was the best I could get I only had less than 10 minutes to tweak on his since he was only stopping by I guess to show this great x-mas gift. I asked about the manual, he says he already memorized it earlier this afternoon - that's all he says about it Well I did get better audio signal with the quarter about 1/4" away. He had a dirty lookin grin.
I think he missed me saying that I would throw this in the garbage (holding his) cuz he was chuckling over my Tesoro's.
So after he leaves, the wife and I have a short discussion. Do I take him on a hunt and whoop the poor boy with the Compadre real good and take a chance of him not going along in the future, or try and avoid going together, which won't last long. Knowing him for some years, he's the kind that when let down, it sticks bad for awhile. Like a sore looser. Hey, he called my Tesoro's "crap" and lucky I didn't throw my little dog on him right there and then.
I'm hoping he don't start calling me early in the morning or just drive over all hyped and ready to hit up on all the buried treasure.
The wife says that she caught the look I gave when he talked bad about my Tesoro's. :veryangry: and I should put the Tesoro whoopin on him. I'm starting to agree and kind of laughing on this machine he brought over.
Like I say, I don't like knocking machines, but the brand thrown in the search on this forum results in zip, zilch, zero, nada & nada-II. I don't want to ask his wife who gave it to him, where she got it, and take it back.
Well as I been typing this, she recommended I have him over with his detector and start in the test garden - she doesn't want to miss it

 

[tab-nabit]

Oh man - his wife called wondering if dinner was going to make it home. I told her he already left.
Anyway I found out she got the detector locally at a sporting goods place on sale for she thinks $39.00 and that she got it for him as he mentioned me and detecting.
She didn't sound to thrilled like I was the one that got him started
I been blamed in the past taking fella's fishing and their wife's not believing we went fishing the whole time, then the money thing starts up

 

[SkiWhiz]

Man I would pay money to see you & him out in the field. Heck I can almost see it now, him putting a whooping on ya tab-nabit. Oh ya I know them Tesoro's aren't any good I have been using them for the past 25 years or so not because I like them of coarse but just so some other poor fella doesn't have to use them & me being the nice guy that I am will probably keep using them junky Tesoro's for another 25 years or so.

All kiding aside, I am guessing that this fella is a newbie and this is his first detector if so I can see about being all hyped up. But calling a Tesoro junk, well thats just fighting words. I would of thought that you would of taught him better tab, he should of bought a Tesoro in the first place.

So how much are the tickets & where can we get them to the show down tomorrow . Now get your sleep your going to need it tomorrow, put a new battery in your Tesoro you're going to need all the advantages you can get . Steve.

 

[tabdog]

Sounds like you and Bubba are gonna have a bang up time...

Don't forget ta taken tha relikin shovel, or may be a back-hoe...

If he gets ta showin you up too bad, just blame it on your piece of crap...

Sure hope you can get a photo of all tha treasure tha nubee digs up.

But I guess you guys are gonna need a wheelbarrel ta haul it home....

Thanks for tha story.

Hope you can sleep tonight.

I know you're just pumped with anticipation.....

Happy Huntin,

Tabdog

 

[tomclark]

Ah jeez, bring him along. Let him get "used to" his machine for an hour or so. Then let him use one of yours. He'll take his back and get one like yours. Happy Finish. LOL.

 

[slingshot]

Or you could prank him like my best friend. When the Bounty Hunter Red Baron came out I was hype like this guy and my best friend bought some old coins and spread them out and pretended like he had been over the area and by golly his detector didn't give a peep. After he praised me and got me all excited, he pulled out the box full of coins that were left over and said "By golly, they look just like these coins!" On another occasion, he told me his dealer had "supertuned" his CZ-5-and of course would go deeper than my CZ. He buried a Half dollar about 2" beyond the detecting ability of the detectors while my back was turned, and asked me to come over and see what kind of reading I would get on mine-which of course was none. He then proceeded to "deepen" the hole and showed me the half.

 

[amcjavelin]

hey take him on the hunt and show him that these tesoro's are no toys, I say stomp his but and walk it dry and show no mercy, how dare he insult the mighty tesoro!

 

[dahut]

- - he got the new toy and he feels special. Let him learn the truth, but nudge him into it.
Guide him. Be the mentor.

If that don't work and he cant get the message - show him what a real detector in the hands of an expert can do.

 

[tab-nabit]

Oh what a day - of course he calls 1st then shows up like real quick afterward still biting at the bit - I ain't moving till a few cups of coffee goes through me I tell him.
To make a long story short, he brought full size shovels, I had a little tough time but finally talked him into leaving them in my garage - he didn't want to try my backyard test garden.
So we decided to hit a ball field edge where there are some tables by the trees. He opened the door and I thought he was going to leap out before I got the SUV to a full stop to park. On the way, it was mostly a 1-way conversation, him yappin his lips while I drove and sipped a cup of on the road coffee. I told him a few times I wanted to be back to watch some games on the TV. I think everything bounced off his thick head.
So I stand behind the SUV to snap a few shots and was telling him where I wanted to start. Next thing I know he's not by me, out into the field he went. So I though, this is just swell, as long as we stay within reasonable eyeball distance, and I better stop talking to myself.
I figured I would start by the tables along the tree line, and there's a creek just beyond the trees, maybe hit along the ball field line and if not good, there is a school across the fields that I have never been to.
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Well I finally got myself started and kept an eye on my partner - I got a kick as he was walking all over the place swinging that thing like a foot above the ground mostly, and would keep messing with the knobs. After about 10-15 minutes I notice he started to pay attention towards me. I had already hit on a few zinc's and a spike, plus some tabs. I have found spikes in the area before, so they been used for some purpose - would make a good tent stake.
After I hit on a few more zinc's, I notice he is really watching me now, and he has now slowed down and has his coil much closer to the ground. I think him watching me kind of got to him as I was up and down. I finally see him crouch down, back up, back down, back up, back down, digging a little with the trowel I loaned him. He keeps looking over at me as I go along my business and see's me pop up and down in a couple of spots. But I made sure he saw me stick my hand into the pouch, but it was another tab and I knew he didn't know what it was.
Well he kept at the one spot so I decided to work my way toward him. I got about 1/4 of the way to him and I see him grab his detector and continue on. I guess he gave up, so I slowed down and figure I would slowly work my way closer to where he is. Then I notice he started to work his way somewhat toward me. I kept watching while I was detecting, then I finally see him again zero in on a spot. He kept playing with the knobs on his machine and swinging in the same spot. He all a sudden he just lets go of his detector and lets it hit the ground, crouches down and fiddles his hand down on the ground. He stands up and holds his hand up looking at me to show me something. I lifted my left hand up to block the sun to get a better look - next thing I know - BAM!!!! like my hand exploded. I dropped the Compadre (was in my other hand) instantly and went to my knees with on fire pain to the left hand. I then looked at my hand which felt like it was on fire and next thing I know my buddy rushed up to me yelling if I was alright. He kept asking if I was alright looking back and forth at me and towards the tree line. Man I couldn't say a word for a minute or so - it hurt and hurt bad. My hand was swelling and as I was regaining myself he was saying it came from the other side of the creek. Finally got it all figured out - a golf ball came flying over from the other side of the creek, through or over the trees and found the top/back of my hand squarely.
Well I tried to make a long story short and got a little more than planned - so to cut it (dinner almost ready), a trip to doc shows the bones didn't get broken which was very surprising to all of us so doc figures if the ball hit a little off from where it impact, things could be much worse. Feels broken to me hurts, swelled, darken.
To try to get to dinner -
Here is my finds (not much) minus the tabs, some foil, piece of wire:
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His finds - about the only thing I can laugh at today:
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And what ruined my weekend -
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Lucky I guess it hit my left hand (I'm righty) but means no motorcycle riding (can't lever the clutch) and no digging/swinging with the left hand for awhile, and of course my sports are out - yes I still do football, baseball, basket ball with the kids, and hate to say it, I golf.
We never did see anyone on the other side of the creek where the ball came from - and the hand still hurts very much from hours earlier today, and I missed a good chunk of the football game.
By the way I feel right now, I think I'm out for a spell till hopefully a week or so I'll be back at it :veryangry:
I did catch one thing, he says he wants to go detecting again with me and asked if I could show him how it's done. He didn't call my Tesoro any bad names so I didn't tell him to throw his in the garbage can.

 

[Beale]

OUCH!! Man that just had to hurt like anything! I am glad he may be learning from you. Take it easy with that hand and good luck with it, Beale.

 

[Mike Hillis]

I wonder how many full size shovels went into parks and schools these couple of weekends

Good to hear your hand was ok and that the guy wants to learn. That site has some good ring potential.

HH

Mike

 

[tab-nabit]

Yeah - he says maybe torn tendon's but ain't broken - sure feels like though. At least I can bounce my index finder on the keyboard.

 

[Uncle Willy]

I would have given the boy a break and blown the whistle on his junk detector and given him the chance to return it and get his money back before he makes a fool of himself. I had the same scenario years ago with a friend who bought some mailorder piece of junk. I told him what it was but he refused to believe he had been screwed. His detecting career died an early death and it took him a long time to confess that he should have listened to me..You aren't really doing your bud a favor by adding fuel to his delusion.

Bill

 

[dahut]

- - and while I normally defer to Uncle Willies vast intellect and wise, wordly experience - I beg to differ with him this time. The chap is out maybe $40, right?

The best lesson he can learn is you dont get something for nothing. The best way anyone can learn that lesson is with a hit to the wallet. In this case a hit that is not too painful.

Mel Fisher lost a son searching for La Nuestra Senora de Atocha, spent untold amounts of money and fought over 100 legal battles to eventually achieve his prize. So, along comes Mr. Buzzbox with his $40 detector and refuses to listen to the one best resource he has available... you?
I wonder how many of us here, who DID manage to stick it out in the detecting hobby, learned the same lesson. I know I did.

It is now important that you break the news to him in the field. He needs to see and feel what a real detector does, compared to his Cheaplastijunk model.
As much as it tests your patience to do so, stick by him a fw more times and let him know the realities of life.

Okay, the spikes. I believe they are used to on nets, like the ones behind soccer goals or portable batting cages.
And so sorry for the hand-golf ball episode. I've had a few such encounters with mysterious "meteorite golf balls," too. One nailed me in the noggin once!

Keep it up with Mr. Buzzbox. You are building great karma.