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Teknetic vs. Etrac vs. Omega vs. Safari

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Keithbar

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Okay folks....I have a problem...I have been metal detecting for years with Whites xlt with good results but I want to upgrade to a machine that can separate the goodies from the trash and iron....I am torn between T2, Omega, or a E trac/ Safari...I know the T2 has a solid following across the waters, but how is it in the States?...I live in West Virginia and I hunt old homeplaces, churches parks, Civil War sites you name it....Please offer serious advice about all machines--the pros and cons, and I would really like to know if the Omega is really as good of a machine as the other 3 , and why it is so much more cost effective, and does it separate the goodies as well as the E trac claims to do.
 
I have the Omega and it is a real good detector. Out of all the metal detectors I have tried the Omega is still with me, sold all the others. I prefer the Etrac to any detector as it fits my style of hunting the best. Some say that the Omega has better TID for coin hunting than the T2. Me personally, if funds were no problem I would take the Etrac. If money was tight I would get an Omega. I have not used the T2 or safari so I can tell you about them.
 
Bill_S said:
I have the Omega and it is a real good detector. Out of all the metal detectors I have tried the Omega is still with me, sold all the others. I prefer the Etrac to any detector as it fits my style of hunting the best. Some say that the Omega has better TID for coin hunting than the T2. Me personally, if funds were no problem I would take the Etrac. If money was tight I would get an Omega. I have not used the T2 or safari so I can tell you about them.
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Great post here! Bill is spot on in his advice!

Feel free to call me for info on the Teknetics Omega 8000 or E-Trac. Don't leave out the Minelab Explorer SE Pro either. Its just as deep and a bit cheaper. I can make you a great deal on any of these and love to help you with questions.

Thanks, Bart
 
I've owned the F75 LTD the E-Trac and the Omega 800 and all were fine machines. If I did mostly relic hunting I'd be using the F75 LTD or the Omega. For coin hunting old parks and schools it is the E-Trac hands down.

I didn't care for the noise of the F75 and Omega. I'm an old White's guy so I really like a solid stable threshold.
 
How is the omega is terms of depth and the ability to weed out coins in high trash areas? Will iron mask the coins, and can the omega recover those coins?
 
I don't yet have an E-Trac but can add my 2 cents regarding the Omega and T2. I had a T2 for years and after one weekend of Omega use I sold the T2. Key being - I'm a coin hunter and the VDI on the Omega was much better on coins. I found coins down to 8" or so on the Omega and never did that with the T2 (Though it is quite capable). From what I have read with the E-Trac, it is going to give you 2" or 3" more than the Omega with better TID at depth. If money wasn't an object I'd get the E-Trac over the Omega. I would only get the T2 if I was a relic hunter predominantly.

Regarding iron, I have put my Omega against my V3i and it holds it's own. It is excellent in iron, absolutely excellent. The V3i is just slightly better (and much deeper). Judging by all the pics of coins found in iron here I would guess the E-Trac is also excellent, but much deeper than the Omega. Yeah, most coins are found in the first 6" but that might be because most detectors only go 8" :crylol:

edit - Just to add, if weight is an issue the Omega is awfully light but realize the E-Trac is in another class outside of weight.

Hope that was helpful,
EMS
 
You could stick with whites.The mxt or the m6 are killers in the trash....especially with the small elliptical coil.
 
I owned an Omega but sold it to finance an ET. What Bill S said is right on. The Omega is great for coins, but my only concern was the quality of build. I had to send it in soon after I bought it, and had another problem soon after, which I fixed but may have voided the warranty in doing so.

Ray in Va.
 
I have both and like them like the others have said for different reasons. Now if I had only one choice and money WASN'T an issue I would go ETRAC if it is an issue the Omega is a fine machine and with dd5" and dd11" inch coils along with the stock 10" eliptical you would be good to go in depth and in trashy sites. The 5"dd is deep. The Etrac is a smooth deep running machine without all the extrainious noises and EMI issues plagueing other machines with excellent seperation even with the stock 11" pro coil it comes with. I wouldn't even mess with the Safari way slower machine with minimun settings more for maybe a complete newbie wanting simplicity to start with. Everything I read on here says that the T2 is chattery/noisy so it may take a while to decipher and grow used to it some never do and end up selling.
 
Nauti Neil said:
You could stick with whites.The mxt or the m6 are killers in the trash....especially with the small elliptical coil.
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I gotta side with Neil. The M6 with the 4x6 is a killer coin shooter and has fairly good depth. I think my deepest silver with it was around 8". Some don't like that it lacks the ability to notch, but in my experience with it, the areas I would have notched on it if I could were the very areas that gave me gold. It is AWESOME for gold jewelry. I found 16 pieces of gold jewelry in the turf with it in the last year and a half!!!

Regarding the Omega, it is great in iron with depth comparable to my finds with the Etrac (I've only been using the Etrac for about 4 months now). I understand the Etrac is certainly capable of greater depths than the Omega, but I have just not seen it yet personally.

I know nothing about the Safari or the T2, but if money was no factor and I was just buying one detector of the four you listed, I would take the Etrac hands down.

That's my two cents.

HH
 
Here is a video I did comparing the E-Trac, V3i and Omega 8000 on a 7" coin in the city park. I felt the E-Trac had a good, without a doubt, sound with the V3i close behind. The 8000 couldn't get a signal that would tell me to recover. It sounded like any other piece of trash in this park. Most every detector I've tested in this park can see those deeper coins, to some degree, but only 2 made knowing it was a deep coin more obvious. That was the V3i and the E-Trac.

[video]http://youtu.be/vpTHCWn2nhM[/video]
 
Nice video Southwind. When i get an E-Trac next year I was thinking of getting the 10X12 SEF as my standard coil as I have heard so many good things about it. Do you think that as my main coil the SEF would be better than the pro coil? I hunt in mild ground with a fair amount to lots of iron (Typical for Europe). My trashy coil will for sure be the 6X8 SEF.

Thx,
EMS
 
Do you think that as my main coil the SEF would be better than the pro coil?
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Frankly I felt the stock Pro Coil was very close to the 10x12 SEF in performance and separation. My opinion was the 10x12 SEF was not a significant enough improvement over the stock Pro coil to justify buying one. The Pro coil is just plain good. Now I also had the SEF 6x8 and really liked it over the Pro coil for tot lots and really trashy sites.
 
I was going to try to get the 10X12 SEF instead of the Pro Coil, not in addition to it. In Europe they have some nice bundles, like buy an E-Trac and get the 6X8 SEF for 20 bucks more. (Basically like the deals in America, but with a coil). I was hoping to see if I can get the SEF instead of the Pro coil, if not I'll just use the Pro Coil and get the smaller SEF coil (and that is it).

Regarding what Big Boy said, with the Video of the V3i - I thought you were swinging quick also, but I hit deeper targets swinging quick, even with the 5 Filter, though it hits better when swung slower for sure. Big Boy Hobbies - He said "Here is a video I made", regarding your title... :unsure:
 
Sold my Etrac. Too heavy. Too bad the Omega and AtPro are good for 6" to 7". Each can go deeper if things are just right.
 
Each detector is being swung at the speed that gets the best target response. If I swung the E-Trac slower I didn't get as good a signal on that particular target. I have found that a slow swing speed is a good place to start, but not always the best for every target. In this targets case a faster swing speed gave a better response.

Next time you get a deep target trying swinging at different speeds over that aarget, you might be surprised.
 
Southwind said:
Each detector is being swung at the speed that gets the best target response. If I swung the E-Trac slower I didn't get as good a signal on that particular target. I have found that a slow swing speed is a good place to start, but not always the best for every target. In this targets case a faster swing speed gave a better response.

Next time you get a deep target trying swinging at different speeds over that aarget, you might be surprised.
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No worries! Every situation/coil/machines/detecting style is different. You were there. You know what worked best. Seems like most of the time here The E-Trac "sounds" better if i slow down over a deeper target. I will do more experiments next time I get to get out.

Did you have fast setting on? I leave it off most times. Degrades signals to bad for me.
 
Same here Bart. I leave FAST = OFF and DEEP = OFF just because it seems to improve target ID. Especially the FE/Ferrous numbers.

This park has some strange conditions for sure. Some places I swing at a snails pace to get the best target response, and others I swing like I'm swinging a White's. Trust me when I say I've tried all speeds. I've been told I "over-analyze" waaaay too much. When I get a signal I feel is probably a good deep coin I'll spend a lot of time trying many different things from swing height, speed and directions to settings to see which gives me the best over-all response. I may spend a lot of time on each signal but it pays off in the long run.
 
The E-Trac will hit harder and deeper with a brisk sweep verses very slow paint brush like strokes in many cases.If the trash is extremely bad then a slower sweep is required to unmask more good targets but best depth is with a faster sweep in my MO/KS soils.I have had numerous hits that were just a blip in mid swing and then sweep back and forth at a fast sweep and get a nice solid silver warble and the targets were often 8" to 10"+ silver dimes.This is usually while running in high man. sens. in conductive multi tones ,deep off and fast on most of the time.

Like Southwind stated it is a must for each person to experiment with different settings and sweep speeds on actual infield targets to learn what works best at their sites.I have dug a number of 10"+ coins both silver and wheats/Indians that were nothing more than a faint mono-tone but were pegged out on depth meter and they had that nice tight round hit in pinpoint mode.I dug a Barber quarter at over 12" measured that was one of those mono-tone signals and I had no ID information (tones or numbers) that would help determine if it was silver/copper or trash.

The E-Trac is an amazing machine and after hundreds of hours and over three years I still learn little things in the field that make it even better.
 
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