Tejon with 5.75 coil pulled old Token out of super trashy site.

[Bill G]

The Tejon with the 5.75 coil today at a super trashy iron infested site sniffed out an old Token redeemable for 5 cents from the early to mid 1900 area(around an old tree stump) This area was a decent size community and very active from early 1910 through the towns peak around 1926.Then things started slowing down and now there are only a few houses left in the little community today.

The Token is not worth much but it is a rare find. I also pulled out a few clad coins and a few old rivets with some lettering on them. All and all great finds for the amount of time I had on hand to hunt about 1 1/2 hours.

This area is old but the ground there is very very tough to hunt some of the toughest. I will take what I can get

Front & Back pic's

Happy Hunting All,
Bill G

 

[John (Ma)]

Nice one!

 

[bibelot]

That is a nice find.

 

[bigtim1973]

Love old tokens. Great save.

 

[Mega]

Thats a very nice find and certainly unusual,have just ordered the same coil as yourself for my UK version of the Vaquero,hoping it should be here by the weekend,mainly be used on trashy sites and in between the stubble rows.

Out of curiosity what is that plastic shielding that you use on the coil cable ?? i would assume its some form of cover for electrical cable and you can buy it from Ebay.

 

[Bill G]

Thats a very nice find and certainly unusual,have just ordered the same coil as yourself for my UK version of the Vaquero,hoping it should be here by the weekend,mainly be used on trashy sites and in between the stubble rows.

Out of curiosity what is that plastic shielding that you use on the coil cable ?? i would assume its some form of cover for electrical cable and you can buy it from Ebay.

Thank you,

It's a 1/8" split plastic wire loom material, it is also made in larger sizes. I buy it at the local Ace Hardware store but it can be purchased at automotive stores. I have put it on all my coil wires for years with great results. Always fit it on the wire all the way up then cut about an inch to long finish fitting into place with a little compression and wrap with one coat of electrical tape to seal split (tape not required but I do it anyway)

Happy Hunting,
Bill G

 

[Mega]

Bill,are you finding the 5.75 Concentric coil far better than say a Widesacn coil on trashy sites,as mentioned above i have had a Trident Extreme since Christmas its basically a Vaquero but on steroids,but it came with the 11x8 WS coil which is 'ok' on clean open pasture sites but its not the best combination for real trashy sites,hence is not currently being used,so for our trashy roman/saxon sites may use the smaller Concentric as that will take full advantage of the renown Tesoro discrimination,well i hope it will anyway.

Thanks for your help

 

[amberjack]

monos are better for sure in disc mode wack harder on gold also I think.

AJ

 

[Mega]

monos are better for sure in disc mode wack harder on gold also I think.

AJ

AJ,thanks for the information,think i will stick with the Concentric option,just seem to be a nice coil for in between the stubble,the Extreme with the 11x8 coil on has just been gathering dust for months,the machine is basically brand new,nothing wrong with the machine as such its just i feel that the current stock coil is not the best one for my needs,even with the 11x8 coil is still is phenomenally light but it should be even lighter with the 5.75'' Concentric coil on it.

 

[amberjack]

monos are better for sure in disc mode wack harder on gold also I think.

AJ

AJ,thanks for the information,think i will stick with the Concentric option,just seem to be a nice coil for in between the stubble,the Extreme with the 11x8 coil on has just been gathering dust for months,the machine is basically brand new,nothing wrong with the machine as such its just i feel that the current stock coil is not the best one for my needs,even with the 11x8 coil is still is phenomenally light but it should be even lighter with the 5.75'' Concentric coil on it.

yeah I sold the 5.75 DD kept the Concentric 5.75 or mono for short

I have some DD coils for the 4 pins clean sweep and the detech 6 x 8 but if you are in heavy iron I would go the mono for sure.

I even got the detech 8" mono for the etrac etc it had crap reports and never took off was dead in the water but me being me I want to find out for myself and seriously one of the best coils if not the best from my time with it and those detectors were not even made to run monos so anyway my point is only one person who can test a coil right and that's me or you or who ever , stuff we read on here is others experience or maybe not even that just an opinion.

I learnt a new thing just this last few hunts and from what I can see only happens with the F19 and mars coils and the from what I can tell just from very short testing a lot of detectors that are disc ing beer caps are also disc ing out a lot of coins I hunt and so the plot thickens and only thinking different and doing some different things reveals things not even the manufacturer could know.

again my point is we don't know till we have a go and try different things and well I am like while I can still hear (rubbish) I know that something's not right as in machine lying about what its seeing and there is masking going on.

yes I am nuts but I do find stuff others miss and it makes my nuttiness all the much more fun

so yes well worth a try Mega is the short answer

I am not in the turn it up flat out brigade either on Tesoro's they really need to be run smooth as a baby's bum to work best

and as usual for me way more info than anyone needed but it helps me to see it and if it helps someone else

AJ

 

[Mega]

@ amberjack,cheers mate

 

[amberjack]

just to get total proof I am off the planet and my seeming love affair with pommy music, been listening to this album for too many years.

Now my conductress on the number nineteen
She was a honey
Pink toenails and hands all dirty with the money.

amazing song. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4Ad_J_2l0w

but the winner is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SqqFeewq_8


it's no use saying that you don't know nothing
still gonna get you if don't do something
Sitting on a fence that's a dangerous course
Oh, you could even catch a bullet from the peace-keeping force
Even the hero gets a bullet in the chest
Oh yeah, once upon a time in the west


it is an analogue forum


AJ

 

[Bill G]

Bill,are you finding the 5.75 Concentric coil far better than say a Widesacn coil on trashy sites,as mentioned above i have had a Trident Extreme since Christmas its basically a Vaquero but on steroids,but it came with the 11x8 WS coil which is 'ok' on clean open pasture sites but its not the best combination for real trashy sites,hence is not currently being used,so for our trashy roman/saxon sites may use the smaller Concentric as that will take full advantage of the renown Tesoro discrimination,well i hope it will anyway.

Thanks for your help

Mega,

I think both coils have there place. The concentric does a great job in trash is discriminates well and gets decent depth for the size in mild ground.( Really good depth with the Vaquero and Tejon as they are a little hotter units). With the concentric you need to stay vigalent on overlapping and don't get carried away with your swing speed in trash slow down and listen for the good targets.

The Widescan is also very good in trash but it acts a little diffrent is less needful to overlapping because of its knife pattern verses cone. ( Can cover ground a little faster but still slow down swing speed and listin for targets). It's a must have if the ground is mineralized the Widescan will handle this ground better and get the targets and will normally have more depth in this inviroment. Does not disc out pop caps as well and pinpoints a little diffrent off the tip instead of the middle like the concentric. ( Just X pattern your pinpoint wiggle the coil back to the tip sound will drop move forward sound will come back target is right at tip under the Red Dot). Pinpointing a little diffrent but pretty easy when you get the hang of it.

In Summery

Both great coils in trash with diffrent personality and uses based on design. Both get good depth with the Vaquero & Tejon because of the Hot design. Concentric better in mild ground and a little better discriminator. Concentric more overlap sensitive Widescan less so because of knife blade verses cone pattern and will cover ground a little faster. Widescan better in mineralization and pinpoints at tip.

I have both coils because I incounter both types of soils in my area both mild & mineralized.

Happy Hunting,
Bill G

 

[Bill G]

Bill,are you finding the 5.75 Concentric coil far better than say a Widesacn coil on trashy sites,as mentioned above i have had a Trident Extreme since Christmas its basically a Vaquero but on steroids,but it came with the 11x8 WS coil which is 'ok' on clean open pasture sites but its not the best combination for real trashy sites,hence is not currently being used,so for our trashy roman/saxon sites may use the smaller Concentric as that will take full advantage of the renown Tesoro discrimination,well i hope it will anyway.

Thanks for your help

Mega,

I think both coils have there place. The concentric does a great job in trash is discriminates well and gets decent depth for the size in mild ground.( Really good depth with the Vaquero and Tejon as they are a little hotter units). With the concentric you need to stay vigalent on overlapping and don't get carried away with your swing speed in trash slow down and listen for the good targets.

The Widescan is also very good in trash but it acts a little diffrent is less needful to overlapping because of its knife pattern verses cone. ( Can cover ground a little faster but still slow down swing speed and listin for targets). It's a must have if the ground is mineralized the Widescan will handle this ground better and get the targets and will normally have more depth in this inviroment. Does not disc out pop caps as well and pinpoints a little diffrent off the tip instead of the middle like the concentric. ( Just X pattern your pinpoint wiggle the coil back to the tip sound will drop move forward sound will come back target is right at tip under the Red Dot). Pinpointing a little diffrent but pretty easy when you get the hang of it.

In Summery

Both great coils in trash with diffrent personality and uses based on design. Both get good depth with the Vaquero & Tejon because of the Hot design. Concentric better in mild ground and a little better discriminator. Concentric more overlap sensitive Widescan less so because of knife blade verses cone pattern and will cover ground a little faster. Widescan better in mineralization and pinpoints at tip.

I have both coils because I incounter both types of soils in my area both mild & mineralized.

Happy Hunting,
Bill G

Mega,

I am talking about the 5.75 Concentrc and the 5.75 Widescan coils here and as stated both good for diffrent reasons by design.

I also have the 8X11 RSD Widescan coil. It's a great coil on open area for sure but the 5.75 size coils are the only way to go in heavy trash.

Happy Hunting,
Bill G

 

[pinenut]

I've been on a mission lately, to use a Tesoro optimized for something Tesoros are known to be really good at; discrimination. As "beep & dig" users, we don't have anything but tone quality, discrimination, and our experience to help us decide what to dig. On Tesoros, I've found that the concentrics offer the best discrimination ability. The only place I prefer the Widescan coil, is in spots where I know that I have heavy mineralization - like a few of the old camp areas I search. Some of those camp spots have hot rocks all over, and rusty red rocky soil... then thick pine needles a few feet away. Those are best searched with the Widescan. In manicured parks and most other places though, the concentric is king. Coil size just goes with how much trash there is in the area. The 5.75" size is awesome in heavy trash, and the 8" is great in lighter trash as it has just a bit more depth, and covers more area than the 5.75" does.