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DeepTech

Tejon retune question

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Harry_MD

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I think I understand the value of the retune feature when soil conditions change but its usefulness beyond that escapes me. As a matter of fact, I find it somewhat annoying when trying to determine the shapes of certain objects. Am I doing something wrong here? I also have a couple of other questions that I hope someone can help me with.

1. Is the Tejon retune feature similar to the S.A.T. referred to in many posts?

2. The Tejon has two retune speeds: about 4 seconds and 8 seconds. Are there advantages to using one over the other in certain conditions?

Thanks,
Harry
 
Speaking from using while pinpointing using the slow retune coil does not have to be moving and can usually tell more about the target relative sizing and audio variances while the fast retune pulling the trigger switch coil has to be moving and in most cases gives you a dead on pinpoint quickly and both have their advantages..As many prefer either Tesoro gives you your choice and wish some other manufacturers would also...Do some experimenting and see what works best for you...personally if looking for rings or relic hunting would use the slow retune to learn more about the target but if after deep coins would opt for the fast retune..

As far as S.A.T. it is used on Whites products and might ask the question on a Whites forum or perhaps a user of Whites and Tesoro could offer his expertise...
 
The pinpoint (fast) retune on the Tejon is too fast for sizing and pinpointing for my taste. I use it because once I get the dual discriminators set where I want them, I don't want to click one of the discriminators into all metal to get the slower retune and then spend time resetting the discriminator. I've thought of adding a switch in parallel with the switch contacts of the rotary pot / switch but have not done so yet.

Click the link to get Monte's reply to the first question.

Monte's answer to the SAT vs auto tune / retune question

Cheers,
tvr
 
I'm still not getting it.

I really don't want to use the slow retune since that means losing my main discrimination setting. Sometimes that is set quite precisely. And the fast retune seems to retune just as I'm doing something useful and I have to start again. Simply switching the slow retune to the toggle switch would be an improvement for me but maybe I'm just not getting what Tesoro had in mind when they were designing this machine.

Dan, I'm not sure what you mean by slow retune needing no movement while fast retune does. Aren't they both the same thing with timing being the only difference?

thanks,
Harry
 
Actually Tvr has the right idea as the fast auto tune(VCO) is too darn fast and the slow autotune is quite cumbersome to switch modes...Tesoro could certainly improve the unit if they slowed the VCO and made it more efficient to change from mode to mode...A quick call to Tesoro is in order as several minutes on the phone with a learned Tesoro Tech is worth 10 E-mails and many posts as hard to try to explain in a post....
 
Harry_MD said:
I really don't want to use the slow retune since that means losing my main discrimination setting. Sometimes that is set quite precisely. And the fast retune seems to retune just as I'm doing something useful and I have to start again.
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Harry,
I think you got it. The Tejon retune is what you say above.

I cope with the fast retune all-metal (that is activated by pulling the trigger for pinpoint) by wiggling the coil with wrist movement while slowly moving my arm over the pattern of sizing a target. The little bit of wiggle keeps the retune circuit guessing about what it should tune to so I still get a good threshold signal while doing the larger position movement with the upper arm. Not what I'd like to do and not my favorite exercise, but it is how I cope with the fast retune on a detector that I like to hunt with because of it's other qualities. I like the VCO mode sounds, I like the coil selection and I like the sensitivity to mid-range conductors (the gold range). Tejon has been about my best gold producer when I'm not in the water.

I particularly like the 3.6 x 18 inch cleansweep coil on the Tejon for working sports fields, tot lots and the dry sand areas of beaches just because it covers so much ground and gets very reasonable depth on the Tejon. If there were a similar coil available for one particular other detector I have that I also like to hunt with, I would consider parting with the Tejon.
Cheers,
tvr
 
Thanks for the tip on the wrist wiggle; I'll give it a try. I may take up Dan's suggestion and give Tesoro a call to see what they had in mind with those 2 "enhancements".

I've just started playing around with the VCO mode and I think I might like it too. Depth is way easier to estimate and I'm going to see if large iron can be more easily ID'ed in this mode.

That cleansweep coil also sounds good in those particular conditions and if I ever get into that, I'll try one too.

Cheers,
Harry
 
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