T2 LTD version 6.9 and my first impressions of T2

[ACQ]

Hi folks,

I've spent the first 5 hours with my T2 LTD and impressions are kind of mixed.

Depth is not even closed to my nauty but discrimination is superb and so it is the aid of the VDI (this is my firts vdi machine)

I have stopped digging lead which is greeeeeeeeat!! As it sounds and reads clearly.

I'm running it at 75 sens, 20 disc and boost mode and ground cancel reads around 57.
Machine is a little bit unstable and its difficult to get clear beeps for targets, they normally sounds only in one direction unless they are not too deep.
I've tested it at around 100 meters from power lines but if I head the coil towards the line there is no audible interferences.

Last thing I noticed is my soft version is 6.9 but I don't find any release notes.

Any thoughts?
Thanks
Antonio
PS.I hitted 3 good targets so not bad

 

[Ken in NC]

The T-2 uses an 11" DD coil. Was you other machine's coil about the same size?

 

[ACQ]

Yes, my Nautilus DMC2ba coil was 10" concentric (not DD)

I'm pretty sure I can get more depth with this machine if I can make it more stable.

 

[johnnybegood]

You might want to rethink lead we find intact musket balls sometimes...

 

[ACQ]

Thanks Johnnybegood,

I'm more into coinshooting. I've been doubting between F75 and T2 until the last moment as everybody was saying F75 is more adequate for coinshooting but I liked the extended iron discrimination T2 which is a plus for the soils I hunt here in Europe. When I saw T2 LTD had a boost mode then I decided to give it a try over the F75.

Thanks for your opinions.
Antonio

 

[Cal_Cobra]

Antonio when the T2 LTD and F75 LTD packages were announced, I had my heart set on getting the T2 LTD, as it does a much better job handling bottle caps then the F75, has about equal depth and the expanded iron range could be beneficial. I don't care about the T2's lack of notching as I tend to run my discrimination pretty wide open without notching, but the deal breaker for me was when they announced that the T2 LTD boost and cache modes were only activated using 2-tone mode (the F75 LTD can use the boost and cache mode in conjunction with any tone option available). What a huge disappointment as 90% of the time I'm coin shooting. 2-tone audio effectively relegated the T2 LTD to a relic machine, not that it won't find coins, as obviously it will, but imagine hunting a trashy park in 2-tone...you'd get tunnel vision from your eyes being glued to the LCD display the entire hunt. Also your correct, unfortunately First Texas doesn't publicize release notes for their software/firmware patches, so we're left guessing as to what changes were made between revisions.

 

[ACQ]

I've got only 5 hours on the T2 and thought everybody was using 2 tones honestly I've not tried yet other hunting modes.
Are you saying that for coins I should try a different mode? 3 tones maybe?

Thanks
Antonio

 

[earthmansurfer]

Antonio when the T2 LTD and F75 LTD packages were announced, I had my heart set on getting the T2 LTD, as it does a much better job handling bottle caps then the F75, has about equal depth and the expanded iron range could be beneficial. I don't care about the T2's lack of notching as I tend to run my discrimination pretty wide open without notching, but the deal breaker for me was when they announced that the T2 LTD boost and cache modes were only activated using 2-tone mode (the F75 LTD can use the boost and cache mode in conjunction with any tone option available). What a huge disappointment as 90% of the time I'm coin shooting. 2-tone audio effectively relegated the T2 LTD to a relic machine, not that it won't find coins, as obviously it will, but imagine hunting a trashy park in 2-tone...you'd get tunnel vision from your eyes being glued to the LCD display the entire hunt. Also your correct, unfortunately First Texas doesn't publicize release notes for their software/firmware patches, so we're left guessing as to what changes were made between revisions.

To jump in regarding modes. I'm using the Omega 8000 now but had owned the T2 for 3 years. I like hunting in the 2+ and d2 modes on the T2 and Omega respectively. The big caveat is that I live in Germany and coins are all over the spectrum (thought I'd say most fall under nickels). Hearing 3 or 4 tones doesn't really do much for me. I'm not glued to the VID but I do glance at it very often. It all comes down to hearing clear sounds first though (or a sound coming through iron).

I guess if you are hunting and expecting 5 or 6 typical coins then using multiple modes might be best, but for me and perhaps other European hunters, I wonder if that isn't the best way?

So ACQ - if you really like two tones I don't see a problem with it (but you won't be able to "cherry pick" that way or as Cal said, you might have to look at the VID more.

 

[Elton]

I only have the 6.5 version T2..but I find 3 tones works better for me...

 

[Cal_Cobra]

The tone options really depend on what kind of hunting you do. If say you're hunting a plowed field, then - tone would be fine as really you're probably most interested in anything non-iron, and want to investigate anything that isn't. 2-tones could be OK when hunting iron infested old home sites as well, but for park hunting, where there's typically a myriad of trash objects that range the entire spectrum of the conductivity scale, most of us want to be able to hear where in the conductivity scale these targets fall. 3 or 4 tone options will aid in recovering the higher conductor targets, like silver, copper and clad coins. Granted the TID and tone ID are based on U.S. coins, but most other countries used copper and silver coinage in their past as well, so the additional tone options would still be beneficial. I guess the bottom line is that it would be nice if the operator had the option to select whatever tone options where available to utilize on the machine to match their hunting technique vs FT determining it for you. I have no doubt the T2 LTD is a great machine and it goes deep in boost mode, but I'd be hard pressed to hunt in 2-tone at most of my hunting spots.

 

[johnnybegood]

I always use the 2+ tone now.It lets me know whats in the ground.I usually run 0 disc and sens 90..If its to unstable i just bump the disc to 21 and it always works....

 

[ACQ]

Hi folks,

Thanks everybody that provided feedback. I've been playing with the different hunt modes and although it is very true 3 tones does a much better job for coinshooting, unfortunately none of the coins over here (very old, I mean very very old coins) does not sound with the 3 beeps as modern coins I used for testing does. So I have found that depending on the site and targets I'm trying to find, 3 tones and boost (2 tones) modes are my preferred ones.

In fact thanks to all the advices I received from you guys in this wonderful forum, the T2 yesterday hit a target at 26 cms depth (almost 11") with a 92 VDI

I'm mostly hunting in 3 tones or boost mode, disc 0, sens 90 and GB 61 and with these setting T2 is a little bit chatty but I prefer to have plenty of audio information so I can decide to dig or not. Next thing I'm going to try is airtest (or use the test garden) the different disc values since I've read there are some "sweet spots" at 0, 21 and 50 disc values and I want to know if this is really the case.

I'll keep you all updated.

Thanks folks.
A,

 

[UK Brian]

Earthmansurfer. I totally agree with you but if you have an established test bed with several of the same coin at ever increasing depths you soon find that even two tones cannot be trusted. A coin that sounds good and would be dug at six inches (single tone) indicates on the meter as iron at five inches or deeper if more tones are used.

Tones are fine for cherrypicking but you pay a price in missed good items. There's a couple of T2 books that say anything below 47 is ferrous. This is not so either. I've had many cut hammered that have come in at a lower number.

I've not got a F75 LTD or T2 LTD as I want the T2 version but would need the F75 LTD to be able to use the depth benefits of the new machines in 1 and 1+ modes.

 

[Sky1]

Huh, I guess I am the only one here who coin hunts with 4 tone.