T2 and the Omega.

[pull tab mel]

I have the T2 but courious about the Omega. I'm sure both are good machines but was wondering what the T2 can do that the Omega cant except a little depth. If both md's passes over a target will they both detect the target? I'm thinking if you get the coil over a target there's not much difference.....I had the Delta and found coins, jewelry and relics with it. Some say that the Omega is a better coin machine but shouldn't the T2 find the same coins?

 

[jim tn]

One would think so, but the lower frequency of the Omega really whispers nicely on coins and solid tid is nice. HH jim tn

 

[Daniel Tn]

This is a very depending question.

The T2 seems to get the nod by most people for most depth...I disagree. Having ran both, I'm actually preferring the Omega to the T2. I've noticed that most people doing the comparisons, are putting the Omega with 10" concentric coil, up against the T2 with the 11" DD. When you put the 11" DD coil on the Omega, it becomes an entirely different machine...especially in mineralized ground. Also, depth is depending on what sort of targets you are after. The lower frequency of the Omega is hotter on high conductors...where as the higher frequency of the T2, has it favoring the low conductors.

And here is the biggie for me. The Omega with 11" DD coil, is actually IDing things better for me in my soil...especially deeper targets. Granted, both detectors can "see" the same targets at depth...but the T2 starts throwing all kinds of VDI numbers and at you, in quite a wide range....it may ID a deeper silver coin anywhere from Foil to Quarter and everywhere in between, and in my particular dirt, the deeper they are the more they tend to read as all iron. The Omega gives a lot more stable ID for me at depth....say the T2 can detect a coin down to 12 inches...but only ID it accurately down to 5 1/2 to 6. So if you were in a trashy site, and relying on IDs to determine whether you dig or not....you're not going to be digging many of the deeper coins. But lets say the Omega goes down to 10 inches on said coin....it may actually ID it correctly down to 8.5 to 9 inches. So if you were once again trusting the IDs...you're gonna be walking away with more coins because it's IDing more accurately at its depth. Make sense? Well that is exactly the scenario I'm seeing between the two.

Putting the 13" Detech DD coil on the Omega was a jaw dropper to me. I was expecting a little more out of it compared to the 11" DD...but I was shocked to see it getting more than I had planned. Actual depth increase is about 3 inches more on coin size objects over the 11" DD. Even more on larger objects. Very nice investment for the Omega. Would LOVE to see what one would do on the T2!! Trying to talk my buddy into get getting one of them just so I can see for myself. LOL

 

[earthmansurfer]

I've had both a T2 and Omega and Daniel couldn't have said it better and I agree with everything he said (got to use the 11" DD coil for sure). I'll just throw out one more thing - In iron mineralized soil (like mine) the Omega is a superior detector and it's not close. It may not be built as well and it's missing that beautiful trigger, but on coins it just rocked. I now have an E-Trac and hunted a site with it that I pounded (many many times with the Omega) and in this one smaller area - maybe 25 by 25, I couldn't find anything else! I was really shocked. I found coins with the Omega down to 7" or so, and now with the E-Trac I find them down to 9". I do know the Omega will go a bit more than 7" in my ground. I really miss the Omega's weight and ergonomics as well.

The T2 cost considerably more and I had owned it for 3 years or so, but after one weekend with the Omega, I sold my T2.

The Omega is an incredible machine and not just for the money, even when you put it up against the big ones out there, cost wise. I may get another one and if I do I will for sure get the 13" Detech - early reports are excellent.

 

[TerraDigger]

Also being a dual owner T2/Omega, I have to agree with Daniel/Earthman assessments. The Omega was designed for coinshooting. The T2 was not. The T2 is primarily a relic/prospecting machine IMHO. The 11" DD transforms the Omega in to a fierce competitor with other higher end detectors from various mfg's for coinshooting/relics. The stock concentric coil is excellent for low-medium mineralization. But if higher mineralization is a issue or better target separation needed, you'll need the 11" DD coil to punch through the mineralization/separate. For some unknown engineering reason, the Omega benefits more from the 11" DD coil than any other detector from First Texas that can also use this Greek Series coil. That's the opinion of several owners of First Texas detectors.

 

[EtracTom-AdirondacksNY]

I think it's because it puts out the power or in other words it a "hot" running machine by design they made it that way when you run the sensitivity up higher beyond 60% power. When you put the 11"DD on it it can really use that extra power in a concentrated way and punch deeper into the gound. I think that is why it says to start using it at the 60 sensitivity mark when you first get the machine and are starting out and as you get used to it then go higher on the sensitivity. It becomes a bit just the slightest bit chatty run way up high especially when I have the 11"DD on it as I get pops and some chatter from hot rocks and such in my soil here.
It's nice that they put that blue color and the lines on the sensitivity/power left hand dial as you can turn said dial to them and the first spot is 60 the second one is 75 and all the way is 99 sensitivity so you don't have to really look at the numbers on the screen it's pretty accurate.

 

[Big Boys Hobbies]

Also being a dual owner T2/Omega, I have to agree with Daniel/Earthman assessments. The Omega was designed for coinshooting. The T2 was not. The T2 is primarily a relic/prospecting machine IMHO. The 11" DD transforms the Omega in to a fierce competitor with other higher end detectors from various mfg's for coinshooting/relics. The stock concentric coil is excellent for low-medium mineralization. But if higher mineralization is a issue or better target separation needed, you'll need the 11" DD coil to punch through the mineralization/separate. For some unknown engineering reason, the Omega benefits more from the 11" DD coil than any other detector from First Texas that can also use this Greek Series coil. That's the opinion of several owners of First Texas detectors.

Listen to Terra and Daniel, they know what there are talking about!

Holler if you have questions or a good deal on the Omega.

 

[ez4sure]

wow guys after reading these posts im thinking i should have got the omega instead of the t2se. hows the battery life on the omega and is it as well balanced as the t2 thanks hh

 

[EtracTom-AdirondacksNY]

Better ballance and lighter weight can swing all day without fatigue. It uses one 9 volt battery maybe 20-30 hours. Easy enough to carry a spare one with you and it also works for my Garrett Pro Pinpointer so whichever battery dies first I alwasy have a spare 9 volt on me to have to use.

 

[John(Tx)]

n/t

 

[pulltab]

I have both and think the Omega was (is) easier to learn. I use it for probably 90% of my hunting.