sweep speed

[sticks]

Been in the hobby since way back in the old t.r. days but not active in years, My last main machine is a 6000d that needs repair. Thinking about a new machine like a mxt pro. So do I understand that the new machines are back to being slow sweep?? the 6000 is a fast sweep,, faster the better.

thanks
jk

 

[Joel-Winnipeg]

MXT PRO woukd be a good choice.
I have the older MXT and would never get rid of it.
It has been a good coin and jewelry detector, the PRO
has a few more features but basicly same as the older unit.

 

[sticks]

thanks
so are they slow sweep?
jk

 

[Aarong81]

Yes, the MXT uses a slow sweep. If you swing it like the older whites it can null. When I was switching from the older machines to an MXT pro I was at discouraged by the idea of a slow swing at first. But it has its benefits as well. There are a lot of places that the silver rush detectorists of the 80's missed because they couldn't swing their detector fast enough to work well. Areas include brushy areas, woods or timber, tall grass because its very hard to swing fast through it, ect. With the MXT you can hunt these areas and actually get to find virgin ground on occassion. You only need a good wiggle to get it to work so you can get your coil in tight areas such as between 2 trees.

I would say about 2 seconds per sweep of about 6 feet would be a about right for the MXT. Thats about half the speed of the older blue box whites machines.

Although, feel free to slow down as much as you like. You can make the same 6 foot sweep over a 10 second period and get better seperation. In heavy trash, I sometimes only swing about 5 inches and back again. Even in such a small swing there can be 4 different targets to seperate.(I use a D2 coil that has AWESOME seperation in close proximity) I have a hard time believing that the older fast sweep machines had the ability to seperate targets in such an area.

 

[sticks]

Thanks, well said
thinking about the 6x10 and the d2 as well and maybe an sef
any thoughts?
no kidding,, it'll be hard to slow down after a "motion machine"
jk

 

[Aarong81]

I love the D2 but its not a good coil to use while learning a new detector. In fact, the D2 requires a bit slower swing than my other coils. A concentric coil can be swept a bit faster than a DD coil but they all have their pros and cons. A concentric coil may have the best depth per size of coil but has the disadvantage of nulling when more than one target is under the coil. A DD coil will seperate better, is less affected by ground minerals, but in my experience does not give as accurate of VDI's as a concentric coil. At least the D2 coil ID's bottle caps as quarters or dimes, a big difference compared to a concentric accurately showing +40 to +50 BOTTLE CAP. All coins VDI accurately. I am ok with the loss of ID accuracy because the advantages outweigh it. I am able to hunt very trashy areas that still have good targets where other detectorist raised their coil off the ground, took 20 paces, and continued detecting elsewhere.

My second favorite coil is the stock 950. Don't let the title 'stock' fool you, Whites chose to sell it on all their TOP LINE detectors for a reason.

I havn't used the 6x10 but I hear that its a good coil for both trashy areas and general use. It will cover good ground front to back since it is 10" long and still seperate well. Its too close to a D2 coil so I don't have an incentive to buy one and try it out.

 

[sticks]

ok, thanks
Got my old 6000d packed up and ready to send off to Whites. Its a good old machine worth a refurb.
jk

 

[HuntinDog]

I have a 6000Di Pro (as a backup) and a MXT Pro with all of the coils. I run the MXT Pro with the 6X10 and only switch to the smaller coils or larger coils in trashy (smaller) or open fields (larger).
If you hunt a lot of open areas with moderate trash the 10DD coils is a great one. Covers ground.
In heavier trash the 6X10DD works very well.
And in the extreme trash the small 4X6 or 5.3 are the best.
These are IMHO.
You can't go wrong with the MXT Pro.

HH

 

[sticks]

Thanks H-dog, Thats about the way im seeing things too,, big question,,, 10 dd or 12x10 sef??
And I saw a vague mention of a mxt ltd,, anybody know what thats about?

 

[sasquache]

In my experience using the mxt its a moderate too slow sweep speed for me but one must keep the coil even with the ground. Excellent depth and accuracy .