Thanks guys. I guess what I'm asking is, once I receive the dual frequency from Whites, should I just keep it in the package, and sell it on line brand new and up date to the excal 2, or should I open it up and try to use it here on Lake Erie. Basically, the beach I go to, Sun Set Beach on the American side, has too much slag for the Beach Hunter to handle, from what I can tell. I'm pretty much done trying to figure out the Beach Hunter. Sure its a great machine in certain areas, heck I fond some nice rings on Cape Cod with it. Pete, if you had your choice for one water machine, what would it be? We should also definitely connect this summer. Been doing all parks so far this year. Some nice barber quarters, large cents, etc. Des in Buffalo