supercharged my compadre -- WAY DEEEEPER now

[GunnarMN]

Last fall my computer went south just got it fixed so its been awile , I just could not du whithout my compadre so I got another and this time i voided my warenty by going into it and turning up the sensitivity to maxand adjusting the ground to handle more mineralized soil this had a noticible afect on its depth now it is at least 1.5" deeper for istance i now have no problem air testing a dime quarter at 6" and in my ground which is mineralized i get a dime at 4.5" deep and a nickle at 5" no problem and quarter and if you slow the sweep speed down you can get coins at 6" in ground but you must slow the sweep speed its still not as deep as my musky which can easaly peg a dime at 9" but it does some thing the musky cant so it staying in my arsinal great detector ummm hummm [/b]

 

[LINDABONITA]

That is great man! I wish you can show me the way to do this. I also did a mod on the compadre and mine works now for interchangeable coils. I'm using now the 8 brown donut search coil. I don't have the 9 x 8 search coil but some day I will order it and try it on it. If you can explain how you did your mod I'm all ears. Thank you.

 

[tvr]

I quoted Gunnar and then replied over on the modifications forum as I thought that was the appropriate place.
tvr

 

[GunnarMN]

take the cover off the compadre whith a phillips and get a very small phillips for the pots pullback the cover very gently the sensitivity trimer is in the upper left , turn it counter clockwise to turn it up then you will have two more pots in the lower right the one furthest right is the disq trimmer and the one just to the left is the ground balance go for it man but be very gentil

 

[Monte]

I got another and this time i voided my warenty by going into it and turning up the sensitivity to maxand adjusting the ground to handle more mineralized soil

I'm curious how YOU determined the trimmer was adjusted to handle "more mineralized ground?" If you "Power Balanced the Compadre for your worst ground, that would be one thing, but if you simply changed the GB setting w/o knowing what was needed, you might have over (or under) adjusted.

this had a noticible afect on its depth now it is at least 1.5" deeper for istance i now have no problem air testing a dime quarter at 6" and in my ground which is mineralized i get a dime at 4.5" deep and a nickle at 5" no problem and quarter and if you slow the sweep speed down you can get coins at 6" in ground but you must slow the sweep speed

Did you happen to check the performance on a nice big ol' silver half or silver dollar? That might be interesting, especially if you adjusted the GB trimmer way too positive!

its still not as deep as my musky which can easaly peg a dime at 9" but it does some thing the musky cant so it staying in my arsinal great detector ummm hummm [/b]

What does the Compadre do that the Musky can't, especially since your post was touting how you've boosted things up to enhance depth of detection?

Thanks for the replies.

Monte

 

[digitaltim]

Monte,

I try to read your posts, because they're informative...
With that said, I get the impression that you're 'anti-mod'...

Just judging by our previous conversations and other posts.

Any particular reason? I imagine you just don't want to see a good detector made bad. b
i think most 'modders' are only trying to enhance detector qualities.

Anyways....obviously I'm not attacking your questions, I'm just curious of your opinion on the mod subject.

 

[Joel-Winnipeg]

I always thought that all the detectors coming out of the factory were set at the optimum settings for that detectors.
I can't see how the fiddling around internally would enhance the unit.
To me the settings would have been provided externally in form of dials,switches or push pads by the makers
of these detectors if it really needed it.

 

[GunnarMN]

to answer montyto adjust the ground i took some gravle and used my magnets to take out all the magnetic stuff untill i had a small bucket full so its bad ground i pumped it untill it just barly mad a nois and the disq trimmer i turned antill i got the deepest signal on the coin in the mineralized dirt , i have found to my suprize that a big silver dallar is not detected much better than a dime i may try it again as far as things the compadre can do that my musketeer cant its better in trashey eareas and close to metal poles and sometimes i do not want 7 to 9" of depth and the compadre can pick out very small things that my minelab will not make a sound on like a small casset tap screw or a BB and the compadre is so light so it has some advantiges and is a good part of my metal detector team ujusting the disq trimmer is the trickyest thing if done wrong can make things wors i tried it it may be best left alon i experimented around whit it for a wile

 

[Sven]

I always thought that all the detectors coming out of the factory were set at the optimum settings for that detectors.
I can't see how the fiddling around internally would enhance the unit.
To me the settings would have been provided externally in form of dials,switches or push pads by the makers
of these detectors if it really needed it.

For all intent and purposes the Comp is set at an average setting by the factory to handle most ground situations the user may encounter.
It is ment to be an entry level detector for those who just want to turn a knob on/off and go hunt.
What Gunnar did was, adjust his detector to be optimized for his particular ground conditions for better depth and performance, which it looks like the
factory settings were not in tune.

For those folks who want to fine tune their detector, Tesoro makes a bunch of detectors with more knobs to fiddle with added cost............personally I would rather fiddle with a bunch of knobs than digital touchpads.

Hey Gunnar, have some snow do you? My Musky is getting a Make-Over.

 

[silversmith]

Hey Sven.......... you got it together on this one....

 

[Joel-Winnipeg]

n/t

 

[slingshot]

I like fiddlin' also and have power balanced my Silver umax. I also appreciate the fact that Monte has been thru the Tesoro fiddlin' stage and has found the BAD things that can happen if not done right. For those that may not remember, setting the g/b askew at it's worst setting will hardly pick up a quarter! I think his intent was to keep caution in the equation. There are several checkpoints during the process.

 

[Monte]

to answer montyto adjust the ground i took some gravle and used my magnets to take out all the magnetic stuff untill i had a small bucket full so its bad ground

if the gravel represented your typical ground or gravel-based sites, why take out the magnetic stuff? If it's there in its natural state, that ought to be part of the equation, don't you think?

i pumped it untill it just barly mad a nois and the disq trimmer i turned antill i got the deepest signal on the coin in the mineralized dirt,

You pumped the coils and what? I presume you are referring to turning the GB trimmer when pumping the coil, right? That's what you should have been adjusting, and doing so with the Discriminate control set at minimum. The goal should have been to adjust the GB trimmer so that you were just ignoring the ground mineralization. That would be accomplished by "Power Balancing" the Compadre in this manner:

Bob the coil towards-and-away from the ground (bucket of gravel w/o pulling the magnetite out) and listening for an audible 'beep' on the UP-LIFT of the coil AWAY from the ground/material. This would be bobbing the coil from about 6"-8" away down to about

 

[Monte]

Monte,

I try to read your posts, because they're informative...

Thanks for the kind words.

With that said, I get the impression that you're 'anti-mod'... Just judging by our previous conversations and other posts.

No, I am not necessarily against modifications. I do a simple mod with some of my White's rods. I like the 'Mr. Bill' modes on a Classic III SL, Classic ID or IDX Pro.

Any particular reason? I imagine you just don't want to see a good detector made bad. b(ut) i think most 'modders' are only trying to enhance detector qualities.

Sadly, White's never offered a factory-produced model that had the manual control of the three mentioned Classic models that Bill modifies (and quite well I might add).

In the case of several Tesoro models, we most often see modifications done to a Compadre, Silver

 

[woodwizard]

to answer montyto adjust the ground i took some gravle and used my magnets to take out all the magnetic stuff untill i had a small bucket full so its bad ground i pumped it untill it just barly mad a nois and the disq trimmer i turned antill i got the deepest signal on the coin in the mineralized dirt , i have found to my suprize that a big silver dallar is not detected much better than a dime i may try it again as far as things the compadre can do that my musketeer cant its better in trashey eareas and close to metal poles and sometimes i do not want 7 to 9" of depth and the compadre can pick out very small things that my minelab will not make a sound on like a small casset tap screw or a BB and the compadre is so light so it has some advantiges and is a good part of my metal detector team ujusting the disq trimmer is the trickyest thing if done wrong can make things wors i tried it it may be best left alon i experimented around whit it for a wile

sure hope your better at electronics than spelling.

 

[digitaltim]

All very good points Monte...

I modded the cibola to save $ over buying a Vaquero....and some times a guy just wants to tinker .

Yes Tesoro makes everything I wanted, but at almost $100 more used or new. So I gave up the warranty for ground balance and gained a 10 turn knob.........hopefully I'll never have to regret it.

kind of like modding a car...you can buy a car with a turbo, but you can also add one yourself for much less

 

[GunnarMN]

when i adjusted the ground i overcompensated for potential bad ground so i thing it operates a bit negitive but when i dig a hole it will not beep in an empty hole but if i come to some badd ground im going to du better thats why i used all magnetic material and i took it out to my test garden to confirm and its way deeper than when i got it the diciding factor of me getting another was when i found out i could turn up the sensitivity that clinched the deal and i love this little machine

 

[LINDABONITA]

Are these pots like screws and can be turned either way? I would like to play with mine so that it can go a little bit deeper. How much of a turn would you recommend to put? 1 millimeter or 2 ? or more than this? Please advise and thank you.

 

[silversmith]

Whatcha do is take your wonderful new digital camera and take some photos of where the pots are set now. Print them out on good photo paper, so you can refer to them later. If you have no experience along these lines, DON'T fool with 'em at all. At least, doing this, you can put them back to stock and not have to send the unit in with egg all over your face. Is this good advice from me to you.........? Absolutely not. Just what I do. I'm a professional E.T. , but I never dig into an unfamiliar device without documenting every move I make. Like I say all the time, watch your back........